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    Quote Originally Posted by Curzon View Post
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    The size doesn't matter my friend. It's the motion of the ocean!

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    Ps - England isn't that big either.


    Exactly, there is no way England can be a superpower today on its own.

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    Mao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antisocial one View Post
    Exactly, there is no way England can be a superpower today on its own.
    What I meant was South Korea isn't big. England isn't big either. Therefore size obviously doesn't matter to be a super power.

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    You are saying something completely different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curzon View Post
    What I meant was South Korea isn't big. England isn't big either. Therefore size obviously doesn't matter to be a super power.

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    You are saying something completely different.
    actually it does matter.

    The dutch almost became a european superpower , but they were too small to compete against england and france.

    Although what made england a superpower is still a mystery. I am guessing industrial revolution and gunpowder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cloud View Post
    actually it does matter.

    The dutch almost became a european superpower , but they were too small to compete against england and france.

    Although what made england a superpower is still a mystery. I am guessing industrial revolution and gunpowder?
    Must be their lousy accent.

    Who the Fk could fight with that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cloud View Post
    actually it does matter.

    The dutch almost became a european superpower , but they were too small to compete against england and france.

    Although what made england a superpower is still a mystery. I am guessing industrial revolution and gunpowder?
    England: 50 million people, 50 thousand square miles

    France: 65 million people, 260 thousand square miles

    Netherlands: 16 million people, 16 thousand square miles

    South Korea: 48 million people, 38 thousand square miles
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    We're all responsible for mass murder and genocide because we let it happen right in front of our eyes and don't do a single thing. We should all feel guilty and ashamed.
    Is it that by its indefiniteness it shadows forth the heartless voids and immensities of the universe, and thus stabs us from behind with the thought of annihilation, when beholding the white depths of the milky way?

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    Anyway, about Mao, like violence said, China would have slip into more anarchy and violence if it wasn't because of Mao. Mao made some big mistakes, but he did put the country back into order. China was much better shape against the world in the 1950's than it was in Qing dynasty, where it was being beatened and raped and technologically inferior. And Mao laid the foundation of a strong modern state which made economic progress possible.
    Which when you think about it is what Lenin and Stalin did for Russia, in reality all so called communism and socialism has been an effort to rapidly industrialise and modern agraran nations usually cuppled with pre-modern political forms that the respective countries are culturally attuned to, ie Russia had Czarism, China had oriental despotism.

    This is how, properly understood, its possible to say that there has never been any examples of socialism or communism in history, however, before any socialists or communists engage in self-congratulation or imagine they've never been responsible for any sort of error its much more so the case that if they havent its because they have not been capable of imagining and then trying out anything which is that different or original from the very status quo they criticise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cloud View Post
    actually it does matter.

    The dutch almost became a european superpower , but they were too small to compete against england and france.

    Although what made england a superpower is still a mystery. I am guessing industrial revolution and gunpowder?
    Yes.

    Plus naval I will dare to say superiority. What ensured that they secure and use resource overseas. What then led to exponential growth and creation of the empire.

    What simply is not possible to do today since entire world is technically one entity and there is almost no resources that belong to no one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    England: 50 million people, 50 thousand square miles

    France: 65 million people, 260 thousand square miles

    Netherlands: 16 million people, 16 thousand square miles

    South Korea: 48 million people, 38 thousand square miles
    During the 18th century, you had:

    England: 5 million people

    France: 28 million people

    Netherlands: 4 million people

    Korea: 3 million people


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    So why did England succeeded as a superpower, you ask?

    The answer is CYNISM and GREED. It was the most brutal cynic and effective exploiter of all. It never hesitated a second to wipe out native people if necessary, unlike its competitors. It never had a project of civilization or culture, England was entirely motivated by greed, greed, and only greed.

    Wherever you had an opportunity, there were there.

    England lacked the ethics other countries had, it was its chance.

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    Anyway. The whole thread seems to be designed to attract fools and provoke free arguments, so I'm wondering why I'm answering here... Maybe it means I'm a fool too?

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