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    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    There are still a few Republicans like Ron Paul and Jeff Flake who really are for smaller government, fiscal responsibility, non-interventionist foreign policy, etc.


    Oh, and pissing off left-wingers is a vital function that needs to be performed regularly.
    Why are these good things? I see right-wingers espousing these as undeniably good things, but never explaining why this is the case.

    Why is pissing off someone who disagrees with you a good thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EffEmDoubleyou View Post
    I see him as another in a long series of great men with a fatal flaw that got them in the end. With him, it was paranoia. I'm not here to excuse the behavior that brought him down, simply to state that it wasn't the entirety of the man.

    People don't seem to have a problem doing it with Michael Jackson.
    I wasn't even referring to Watergate. He's also responsible for the War on Drugs. And with Vietnam, he didn't want to be the first sitting president to "lose" a war. Watergate is nothing.
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoretime View Post
    Why are these good things? I see right-wingers espousing these as undeniably good things, but never explaining why this is the case.

    Why is pissing off someone who disagrees with you a good thing?
    Do you really need someone to explain why fiscal responsibility is a "good" thing?
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    Do you really need someone to explain why fiscal responsibility is a "good" thing?
    Yes, actually, given that what is defined as "fiscal responsibility" tends to be a codeword for other policies, such as social service cuts and regressionary tax policies. Not only that, but it is unclear that in a cyclical economy, balanced budgets are a good thing; sometimes you have to spend money to get others to spend money.

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    I think they have a good stance on gun control. I like shooting guns
    ...Then I ducked my head and the lights went out, and two guns blazed in the dark;
    And a woman screamed, and the lights went up, and two men lay stiff and stark...

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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoretime View Post
    Yes, actually, given that what is defined as "fiscal responsibility" tends to be a codeword for other policies, such as social service cuts and regressionary tax policies. Not only that, but it is unclear that in a cyclical economy, balanced budgets are a good thing; sometimes you have to spend money to get others to spend money.
    The opposite of fiscal responsibility is fiscal irresponsibility. Do you prefer that?
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willfrey View Post
    I think they have a good stance on gun control. I like shooting guns
    Guns don't kill people, death kills people!



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    Quote Originally Posted by JocktheMotie View Post
    Guns don't kill people, death kills people!
    I agree. Rabid anti-gun people annoy me, on the grand scale there are such bigger fish to fry, there are so few deaths caused by guns in porportion to other things.
    ...Then I ducked my head and the lights went out, and two guns blazed in the dark;
    And a woman screamed, and the lights went up, and two men lay stiff and stark...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LostInNerSpace View Post
    Republicans are morons. I started this thread because I was angry. Aren't you tired of this already? I am. It saps valuable energy. I don't want to flight. I do think they are morons but each passing day they looking more like a viable option. I would never have considered watching fox news a few months ago. I probably would not have watched Morning Joe either. This past six months feels like two years already.
    Morons? Hilarious. People get so caught up in their own little world it's hard to see outside of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willfrey View Post
    I agree. Rabid anti-gun people annoy me, on the grand scale there are such bigger fish to fry, there are so few deaths caused by guns in porportion to other things.
    Ever heard the term "matter of principle"?

    And if we are talking in terms of number of deaths, should we compare the US statistics to those of anti-gun countries?

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