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    Default Should the pr0n industry be regulated?

    Pornography rakes in $13 billion per year, greater than what the NBA, NFL, and MLB make collectively.

    It's an industry just like the power, car, banking, and fuel industries. Is it/should it be regulated?

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    Also could someone please explain to me what the idea of "sex-positive" means and how porn promotes this idea? I know what wikipedia says but I'd like to hear your personal definition and experiences.

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    What aspect of porn requires further regulation? Its already subject to community standards of public decency, and stuff like child porn or snuff films are already illegal. Regulation is sometiomes a necessary evil, but further regulation of the porn industry does not seem necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowtech redneck View Post
    What aspect of porn requires further regulation? Its already subject to community standards of public decency, and stuff like child porn or snuff films are already illegal. Regulation is sometiomes a necessary evil, but further regulation of the porn industry does not seem necessary.
    I think I read somewhere that child porn using real children is illegal but not simulated images of children.
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    Quote Originally Posted by proteanmix View Post
    I think I read somewhere that child porn using real children is illegal but not simulated images of children.
    The former is actually what I meant (same for snuff films); I value the first amendment far too much, and fear the unintended consequence too much, to advocate the prohibition of simulated materials.

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    An aside:

    You won't be able to tell the difference eventually, this is going to be a messy law to enforce. Even now, if someone is really good they can create a person that looks awesome. How are they going to prove its a kid without a specific kid to connect it to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by proteanmix View Post
    I think I read somewhere that child porn using real children is illegal but not simulated images of children.

    Isn't that how it should be? I mean, the point of child porn prohibitions is that children are not of the age of being able to consent, nor are they of age to sign economic contracts to perform in adult pictures. It's not illegal to ogle young-looking females. You outlaw behavior that is harmful and exploitative. You don't outlaw being a pervert. If you did, most people would be in jail or on their way.
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    Too hard to regulate.
    Too important to regulate.
    Not bothering enough to regulate.

    Sure it offends people that it is out there, but I mean, anything someone does is counted as offensive to at least someone.

    imho, it should not be regulated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by proteanmix View Post
    Also could someone please explain to me what the idea of "sex-positive" means and how porn promotes this idea? I know what wikipedia says but I'd like to hear your personal definition and experiences.

    I have this in Politics because I'm not viewing this as an adult topic, but political one but if people get out of control I'll move it to Mature Topics.
    Well, the sex-positive movement is kind of a reactionary movement to the ubiquitous, religiously rooted idea that sex is inherently bad/something to be embarrassed about.

    It totally pervades everything in Western culture--from day one we are taught to feel bad about our sexual desires and to repress them.

    The media teaches young girls to be very sexy but not sexual--we actually teach girls to be cockteases, and then talk shit about them when they actually have sex. It's completely absurd.

    95% of women consider sex something that men do to them, and not with them. They think sex is some kind of zero sum game, as if a man asking to have sex is like a beggar coming up and asking for your wallet. "Ha, you're not going to trick ME into getting taken advantage of!" It's ridiculous, but most women honestly do not understand that there is any benefit for them in sexual intercourse. It's viewed as a "favor" that you do for men when you want something else--why would you give away something so valuable for free? (Isn't it insane?)

    The sex-positive movement seeks to shift this paradigm and redefine sex as a mutually beneficial exchange, not something to be embarrassed about, not a fucking zero sum game that's always "plus points" for men and "minus points" for women.

    And yet, women who actually accept and act on this idea are few and far between. Most of you mindlessly parrot popular ideas of sexual equality and then still just keep right on being obnoxious, pretentious prudes who take personal offense when men show interest in them.

    Anyway, as for regulating porn--anything involving only consenting adults is perfectly fine. The fact that they threw Max Hardcore in jail is an outrage; "obscenity laws" are the biggest fucking joke I've ever heard in a country founded on freedom of expression.

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    I consider anything sexual something completely in my power. I don't like submission.

    I am a very dominating person.

    Obscenity laws. Fuck that. Personal wants are something that should be allowed to be acted on legally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    95% of women consider sex something that men do to them, and not with them. They think sex is some kind of zero sum game, as if a man asking to have sex is like a beggar coming up and asking for your wallet. "Ha, you're not going to trick ME into getting taken advantage of!" It's ridiculous, but most women honestly do not understand that there is any benefit for them in sexual intercourse. It's viewed as a "favor" that you do for men when you want something else--why would you give away something so valuable for free? (Isn't it insane?)
    What is your source for this statistic?
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