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    Republican since 2000, and increasingly straight-ticket, though for local elections my vote is open to others.

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    I have deep mistrust and suspicion for both major political parties. I had a chance to deal with both sides while participating in a GAO investigation and later Senate hearings. Each side is self-serving ... and I do not believe either side has the best interests of the people at heart. There are some good individuals in either party, but they are few and far between ... in my opinion.

    My political views most closely correspond to libertarian ... however, I am not a member of that party either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyrdsister View Post
    What political party do you associate yourself with and why?
    Democratic Party. I'm not exactly sure why except the Ds are supposed to be the party of the common man so they do have to walk a little of the talk and they do very little of it. Plus, I know the republicans wouldn't piss down my throat if my guts were on fire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SolitaryWalker View Post
    Yes it is a subjective opinion.

    Yet the objective point is that people tend to identify with political parties and not political philosophies. If I want to know more about your political orientation, I should ask you what political philosophy you identify with and not what political party you support. As you may be supporting a political party for ulterior reasons, whereas the philosophy that you believe in tells me more about you as a thinker.
    I agree - also, a lot of people support a party for lack of realistic alternatives.

    For instance, I'd rather support a socialist style party, but in the UK, there is no realistic party representing these views for me to vote for. The choice is between the conservatives, Labour (who used to be socialist but are now more right wing than Thatcher) and the Liberal Democrats (who are a bit too nanny-state-ish for my liking). I vote for the Liberal Democrats as the lesser of the evils; despite there being smaller parties whose principles I may agree with more, I feel that voting for these simply increases the margin by which Labour wins. Many say voting for the Liberals has the same effect, but at least they have a semi-realistic chance, given time.

    My point: people don't always support/vote for parties that truly represent their political views.

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    Well when I was in high school and beginning in college I was a bleeding heart liberal socialist. I believed everyone was equal and that globalization was wrong and that big corporations were the devil and big government was the answer.

    Then I got out in the actual world and tried to apply these principles and found out that most people were in bad situations because they refused to help themselves and expected everyone else to help them when they provided nothing in return, not even gratitude.

    Now I am of the mindset that if you don't contribute you don't have a right to exist, so screw any socialist state that thinks that a doctor and a ditch digger are on the same level. Doctors should be regarded as better due to the fact that they have had much more extensive training and deserve to be regarded in a higher light. And for people who say that the ditch digger is just as valuable because they are needed just as much I say the ditch digger will dig regardless due to their need to survive and that anybody can dig a ditch it doesn't take much skill.

    On the opposite foot, big business still needs to respect its workers in so much that it provides a livable wage for most in order to continue market development. Outsourcing wouldn't be a problem if people's jobs actually paid what they are worth. Since manufacturing has all but left the United States then other fields need to be paid in accordance to what manufacturing used to pay. Just for example, my parents were lower middle class in the 80's and through no fault of their own they are now upper lower class. Once corporation recognize their need to increase wages along with the minimum wage raises, cost of living increases, then we will be back on track to continuing global dominance.

    So I guess I am neither democrat or republican or libertarian or socialist, there really isn't an easy label for what I think.
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    Once upon a time I was greatly interested in politics. Then philosophy came along, my perspective shifted greatly, I became a nihilist, and my interest for politics faded away. The last party I associated myself with was Venstre, the socialliberal party in Norway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JivinJeffJones View Post
    Voting is compulsory in Australia. I've always voted Liberal (Australian equivalent of Republicans I guess) because Labor is a joke. But I think I'll vote Labor next election because I'd prefer a relatively harmless joke to the somewhat sinister joke the Liberals have become. It's surprisingly difficult to change your political allegiance.
    Is it really compulsary, that strikes me as ironically authoritarian.

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    Germany/Austria/Switzerland: Social Democrats/Greens
    UK: Labour/Liberal Democrats
    US: Democrats
    France: Socialists

    I am basically centre-left, a social liberal.

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    Anarchist or Socialist.
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    Democrat, although I definitely would vote Libertarian if a good Libertarian party would rise.

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