User Tag List

First 12345 Last

Results 21 to 30 of 52

  1. #21
    Senior Member cogdecree's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    MBTI
    ISTJ
    Enneagram
    165
    Posts
    248

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Falcarius View Post
    Hitler was a fiscal moderate, Stalin was a Communist, and Pinochet free-market capitalist despite all of whom considered fascist by most rational people? To put it another way, your comments would be like me using your logic to say Ronald Reagan is fascistic because he was arguable a bigger Military Keynesian than Hitler, Pinochet, and Stalin put together.

    In short your comments like Glen Beck's are nugatory McCarthyism at best.
    Wasn't Nazi a British short for national socialist? If I recall Hitlerís plan entailed the enslavement of the Slavs, to support his industrial war complex that he had imagine, from what he saw as an improvement from the South.

    The system he ran under did fall under the category of socialism; this now begs the question on where fiscal moderate lies on the scale on economics.

    Also fascist isn't military Keynesian, neb's description hits fascism on the dot for the broad scope of fascism. Unless that was the whole point of the claim.

    Main Entry:
    fasēcism
    Pronunciation:
    \?fa-?shi-z?m also ?fa-?si-\
    Function:
    noun
    Etymology:
    Italian fascismo, from fascio bundle, fasces, group, from Latin fascis bundle & fasces fasces
    Date:
    1921

    1: often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

    2: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control <early instances of army fascism and brutality

  2. #22
    Permabanned
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    MBTI
    ISTP
    Enneagram
    9w8
    Posts
    3,187

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Falcarius View Post
    Risen, by my intuition, if you knew half as much about politics as you like to make out surely one would reasonably expect you to comprehend with ease the simple task of at least acknowledging that fascism has next to nothing to do with economics; would they not?

    It leads to another question, why are you either unable or unwilling to accept Hitler was a fiscal moderate, Stalin was a Communist, and Pinochet free-market capitalist despite all of whom considered fascist by most rational people? To put it another way, your comments would be like me using your logic to say Ronald Reagan is fascistic because he was arguable a bigger Military Keynesian than Hitler, Pinochet, and Stalin put together.

    In short your comments like Glen Beck's are nugatory McCarthyism at best.
    Shame on you for assuming that I only ever argued fascism on the basis of the current direction of the economy (or compared to economics in general) as if it were explicitly an economic system, because that's not the case. The ties the current dealing in the economy have to fascism are in the government taking over corporations (corporatism) and government control over the economy through such means, typically associated with fascism in most definitions. If that trend continues it is decidedly comparable to fascism. Look it up.

    Hitler's "National Socialism" was similar to ours in how he took over companies , often with their consent (for believing the government would prop them up and bend to their will), as a means of combating their economic woes. Hitler (national socialist Nazi party) was an enemy of Mussolini (hallmark of fascism), though the systems they created had many similarities. The latter lacked the genocidal ideology of the former, which is inherent to Nazism and not "Fascism".

    And who the hell suggested Stalin was not a Communist?! Stop putting words in my mouth with your dirty accusatory hands.

  3. #23
    homo-loving sonovagun anii's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    MBTI
    infp
    Enneagram
    9
    Socionics
    fuck
    Posts
    900

    Default

    Glenn Beck is all kinds of crazy.
    There's reason to be afraid, and reason to open your heart. ~ Seal

    Refreshment for your ears: www.kexp.org

  4. #24
    I'm a star. Kangirl's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    MBTI
    ENTJ
    Posts
    1,470

    Default

    C'mon, politics aside, isn't anyone going to agree with me that this nutless clowning fool inspires revulsion and vaginal desertification in them, too?
    "Only an irrational dumbass, would burn Jews." - Jaguar

    "please give concise answers in plain English" - request from Provoker

  5. #25
    Senior Member cogdecree's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    MBTI
    ISTJ
    Enneagram
    165
    Posts
    248

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Kangirl View Post
    C'mon, politics aside, isn't anyone going to agree with me that this nutless clowning fool inspires revulsion and vaginal desertification in them, too?
    lol, I really have never watched any famous/well known political speaker (in the form of entertainment), including Glenn Beck. I have no interest in such, so I'm not really bothered either way.

    Sorry for derailing though

  6. #26
    Permabanned
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    MBTI
    ISTP
    Enneagram
    9w8
    Posts
    3,187

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Kangirl View Post
    C'mon, politics aside, isn't anyone going to agree with me that this nutless clowning fool inspires revulsion and vaginal desertification in them, too?
    If this is all about his comedy bits, then shouldn't this... not be in the political section?

  7. #27
    veteran attention whore Jeffster's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    MBTI
    ESFP
    Enneagram
    7w6 sx
    Socionics
    SEE Fi
    Posts
    6,727

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    In the end, I think Democrats benefit from all this Glenn Beck, Palin, Rush, and Michael Steele silliness.
    Wait, what does Michael Steele have to do with the rest?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kangirl View Post
    C'mon, politics aside, isn't anyone going to agree with me that this nutless clowning fool inspires revulsion and vaginal desertification in them, too?
    I have no idea what "vaginal desertification" means, but if Glenn Beck can do it, then I have to at least admire his magic powers.
    Jeffster Illustrates the Artisan Temperament <---- click here

    "I like the sigs with quotes in them from other forum members." -- Oberon

    The SP Spazz Youtube Channel

  8. #28
    Order Now! pure_mercury's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    MBTI
    ESFJ
    Posts
    6,946

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Falcarius View Post
    Risen, by my intuition, if you knew half as much about politics as you like to make out surely one would reasonably expect you to comprehend with ease the simple task of at least acknowledging that fascism has next to nothing to do with economics; would they not?

    It leads to another question, why are you either unable or unwilling to accept Hitler was a fiscal moderate, Stalin was a Communist, and Pinochet free-market capitalist despite all of whom considered fascist by most rational people? To put it another way, your comments would be like me using your logic to say Ronald Reagan is fascistic because he was arguable a bigger Military Keynesian than Hitler, Pinochet, and Stalin put together.

    In short, your comments like Glen Beck's are nugatory McCarthyism at best.

    Falcarius, you're actually wrong about fascism and economics. And what is a "military Keynesian?" I hope that you are not suggesting that the U.S. under Reagan was more militaristic than Germany under Hitler or the Soviet Union under Stalin.
    Who wants to try a bottle of merc's "Extroversion Olive Oil?"

  9. #29
    half mystic, half skeksis jenocyde's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    MBTI
    ENTP
    Enneagram
    7w8
    Socionics
    ENTp
    Posts
    6,387

    Default

    Glenn Beck is outrageous. As a New Yorker, I was deeply offended by his rant on 9/11 victims. It was mean, cruel and totally misguided. But I did love it when he faked cried about how much he loves America. That was classic. I get such a kick out of him.

    I watch all these "news" and opinion programs - the left, right and middle - so I can get a better understanding of what is being taught, what is being believed. But I take it all with a grain of salt and wish everyone was diligent enough to take other sources into consideration.

    That being said, I actually think I'm developing a bit of a crush on Beck. I can't believe it...

  10. #30

    Default

    You know, I was trying to figure out if Glenn Beck was officially a comedian (this comes as an unknown, but unsurprising fact to me).

    It turns out that he just became one.

    Accept the past. Live for the present. Look forward to the future.
    Robot Fusion
    "As our island of knowledge grows, so does the shore of our ignorance." John Wheeler
    "[A] scientist looking at nonscientific problems is just as dumb as the next guy." Richard Feynman
    "[P]etabytes of [] data is not the same thing as understanding emergent mechanisms and structures." Jim Crutchfield

Similar Threads

  1. Glenn Beck
    By Bella in forum Popular Culture and Type
    Replies: 88
    Last Post: 03-04-2011, 07:26 PM
  2. Colbert Pwns Glenn Beck
    By kendoiwan in forum Politics, History, and Current Events
    Replies: 19
    Last Post: 04-05-2009, 12:30 PM
  3. Glenn Beck on Marijuana Legalization
    By Didums in forum Politics, History, and Current Events
    Replies: 32
    Last Post: 03-12-2009, 08:24 AM
  4. Taking MBTT too seriously
    By snegledmaca in forum Myers-Briggs and Jungian Cognitive Functions
    Replies: 26
    Last Post: 12-31-2007, 02:16 PM
  5. Serious health-related question
    By Langrenus in forum The Bonfire
    Replies: 31
    Last Post: 06-21-2007, 04:52 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO