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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    Marriage is not just a piece of paper. It is a formal commitment you make in front of your social circle to stick things out. To become a unit. The legal aspect is just one small part. Furthermore, you must make a conscious step to marry, whereas anyone can slide into cohabitation.
    Ok. If standing in a circle makes you more committed and makes you a better parent, then by all means, do it. Personally, I don't see what the difference is. Raising children should be the responsibility of both parents, no matter what their commitment level to each other is. It would be nice if the parents loved and respected each other, but this is not a perfect world.

    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    Why on earth would a woman have babies with someone less than desirable? She just shows she's a fucktard and bad at making decisions.
    Quite possibly true. But it can happen in any circumstance, not just the one that I mentioned. It can happen if the man chooses to bail, as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    People find themselves in abusive situations all the time. I'd hate to see a woman feel forced to tie the knot with someone of that sort because she's pregnant.
    No attack on single moms, its a rough posistion (I have friends who were raised by single mothers), though more problems do come out of such situations (on a societal level). So it is a situation we want to discourage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    People find themselves in abusive situations all the time. I'd hate to see a woman feel forced to tie the knot with someone of that sort because she's pregnant.
    Yes, but having sexual relations outside of wedlock is the only way this can happen. You should not be fucking OR marrying abusive men. Period. Let's share the responsibility equally here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    Yes, but having sexual relations outside of wedlock is the only way this can happen. You should not be fucking OR marrying abusive men. Period. Let's share the responsibility equally here.
    Yes, the adults should share the responsibility of a bad decision. But the children should not bear the responsibility of a bad decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    Quite possibly true. But it can happen in any circumstance, not just the one that I mentioned. It can happen if the man chooses to bail, as well.
    Again, you might attract men more likely to stick around if you required marriage as a precondition to getting in your drawers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    Again, you might attract men more likely to stick around if you required marriage as a precondition to getting in your drawers.
    Again, why should I give a shit about attracting more men? Reread my first post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    Yes, the adults should share the responsibility of a bad decision. But the children should not bear the responsibility of a bad decision.
    Kids are victims either way. That's the whole point.

    If people were less careless and more commitment oriented, they would approach such things with the proper seriousness, which they do not if marriage commitment is not the goal of a relationship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    Again, why should I give a shit about attracting more men? Reread my first post.
    I think he meant more loyal men, as in weeding out those who wouldn't be loyal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    Again, why should I give a shit about attracting more men? Reread my first post.
    Read my post, I said if you don't want kids, go do whatever the hell you want. Who cares if you fuck up your own life?
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    Then why are people so against gay marriage? Because they oppose more forms of commitment?
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