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    Senior Member Tiltyred's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    Mystery died with porn and bleached assholes.
    ! Another perfect line that I'm so tempted to use as a signature; however, I'm sure I will be counseled if I do ...

    but I'd say that about sums it up, yeah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiltyred View Post
    ! Another perfect line that I'm so tempted to use as a signature; however, I'm sure I will be counseled if I do ...

    but I'd say that about sums it up, yeah.
    You never know till you try! The ENTP motto if there ever was one. Seriously though, women be modest! Doesn't mean you need to wear calico frocks, but Jesus H.
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    Quote Originally Posted by juggernaut View Post
    Why not avoid the conflict in the first place? There are plenty of other healthy, productive ways to learn about this aspect of life. Seems one could argue that divorce is really the ultimate in conflict resolution...two people who don't want to be together anymore agree to walk away and not be together anymore. Problem solved. Staying in a marriage that isn't working, or marrying when you're not cut out for it seems like a really unhealthy way to teach one's children about conflict resolution. I don't see why two people who care for each can't just be together if they want, and raise children if they want, without being legally bound to one another. Why does the state's sanctioning of the union make any difference one way or the other? It's just another contract. It doesn't mean there will be love or harmony or regard for one another, it just means that you're financially bound to another person.

    Forgive me if I seem difficult, I really am interested in hearing what people have to say. It just seems like there are an awful lot of empty cliches flying around and most of them really are ersatz.
    You did nothing wrong, no fret. I remember in earlier posts you mentioned love/romance not important when choosing a mate. Since that is out of the equation.

    Do marriages keep more people together than not? Is everyone able to survive on their own if partners can walk out without paying the significant other in any way? Also state bound relationships are legal commitments meaning things like child custody, and commendations are allowed to take effect as, marriage is treated like a binding contract, this can't be done otherwise else this breaches on civil liberties, which the contract voids a small portion of such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dga View Post
    ive met plenty of couples in europe that decided to have kids before marrying. are they still together, not all, of course not. but considering that over half of US marriages fail, wahts the difference?
    Wow, it's been a long time since I got to refute that oft-quoted statistic. It's not accurate. The "50 percent of all marriages end in divorce" thing comes from a comparison of the number of marriages in a given year vs. the number of divorces in that same year. But since it's not the same couples getting married and divorced you can't extrapolate that 50 percent of all marriages end in divorce. The real divorce rate has never been above 40% (it peaked in the 80s I think) and is currently more like 30-35%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    Wow, it's been a long time since I got to refute that oft-quoted statistic. It's not accurate. The "50 percent of all marriages end in divorce" thing comes from a comparison of the number of marriages in a given year vs. the number of divorces in that same year. But since it's not the same couples getting married and divorced you can't extrapolate that 50 percent of all marriages end in divorce. The real divorce rate has never been above 40% (it peaked in the 80s I think) and is currently more like 30-35%.
    Oh, that's good to know. Thanks, Ivy.
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    I just looked it up to make sure I was remembering correctly and the divorce rate actually peaked in the 70s. People married in the 80s are less likely to divorce than those married in the 70s, and people married in the 90s are even less likely to divorce than those married in the 80s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    I just looked it up to make sure I was remembering correctly and the divorce rate actually peaked in the 70s. People married in the 80s are less likely to divorce than those married in the 70s, and people married in the 90s are even less likely to divorce than those married in the 80s.
    I think this bullshit 50% statistic actually leads to more people getting divorced! It normalizes divorce.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    I think this bullshit 50% statistic actually leads to more people getting divorced! It normalizes divorce.
    Yeah, it promotes despair. THUMBSDOWN
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    Synarch, why aren't you married yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    Synarch, why aren't you married yet?
    I will. As for why not yet, I put it off like everything else. ENTP style.
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