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    Quote Originally Posted by nebbykoo View Post
    I think you have returned....to cynicism. Just a general observation.
    I think you... may be right. It's always there. Beneath the surface. Like herpes.
    "Create like a god, command like a king, work like a slave."

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    Well, don't kill yerself, for Pete's sake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiltyred View Post
    Well, don't kill yerself, for Pete's sake.
    Oh, I was being hyperbolic. I do need things to have meaning, though. I don't think that's so unusual.
    "Create like a god, command like a king, work like a slave."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    I think you... may be right. It's always there. Beneath the surface. Like herpes.
    Working at the Columbia building will do that to ya. that's what I hear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    Oh, I was being hyperbolic. I do need things to have meaning, though. I don't think that's so unusual.
    I think most of us do, and that's why many of us don't approve of or enjoy marriage. It's become meaningless and, as a result, moribund (again this is my perspective). Relationships still matter, but the institution has become as archaic as corsets and foot binding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juggernaut View Post
    I think most of us do, and that's why many of us don't approve of or enjoy marriage. It's become meaningless and, as a result, moribund (again this is my perspective). Relationships still matter, but the institution has become as archaic as corsets and foot binding.
    Yea, but... corsets are hot. I kinda long for the days when catching a glimpse of a girl's ankle would make you spring wood. Everything is meaningless until WE bestow meaning! WE make the institutions. Don't give up.
    "Create like a god, command like a king, work like a slave."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    Yea, but... corsets are hot. I kinda long for the days when catching a glimpse of a girl's ankle would make you spring wood. Everything is meaningless until WE bestow meaning! WE make the institutions. Don't give up.
    I don't really see it as giving up. I see it as the right thing for me to do, based on reason and circumstance. I find meaning in my relationships with friends and family...insofar as they bring me comfort and pleasure...and in my education/career...insofar as it feeds my need to learn and know things, but marriage provided none of that, and it took an awful lot. It actually blocked the opportunity for enjoyment in many areas of life. I can't understand why I would bestow anything other than negative semantic content on this lovely institution. I think I'm actually taking a reasonably positive stance in just saying it's meaningless, rather than ascribing a negative connotation.

    Can't say I blame for feeling the way you do about the other stuff though. I'm kind of burnt out on the in-your-face exposure to everything. Would be nice if there was a little mystery left...

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    Quote Originally Posted by juggernaut View Post
    Can't say I blame for feeling the way you do about the other stuff though. I'm kind of burnt out on the in-your-face exposure to everything. Would be nice if there was a little mystery left...
    Mystery died with porn and bleached assholes.
    "Create like a god, command like a king, work like a slave."

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    I don't think that marriage is for everyone, but it should be something that should be encouraged.

    As another user mentioned before, it gives examples of conflict resolution, by first hand experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cogdecree View Post
    I don't think that marriage is for everyone, but it should be something that should be encouraged.

    As another user mentioned before, it gives examples of conflict resolution, by first hand experience.
    Why not avoid the conflict in the first place? There are plenty of other healthy, productive ways to learn about this aspect of life. Seems one could argue that divorce is really the ultimate in conflict resolution...two people who don't want to be together anymore agree to walk away and not be together anymore. Problem solved. Staying in a marriage that isn't working, or marrying when you're not cut out for it seems like a really unhealthy way to teach one's children about conflict resolution. I don't see why two people who care for each can't just be together if they want, and raise children if they want, without being legally bound to one another. Why does the state's sanctioning of the union make any difference one way or the other? It's just another contract. It doesn't mean there will be love or harmony or regard for one another, it just means that you're financially bound to another person.

    Forgive me if I seem difficult, I really am interested in hearing what people have to say. It just seems like there are an awful lot of empty cliches flying around and most of them really are ersatz.

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