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    Senior Member cogdecree's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    #1 I agree with.
    #2 I don't. Commitment can be independent of marriage, and also families can be nontraditional single or plural households.
    Thanks for answering the questions - enjoy the rest of your night!
    I agree with both of your statements (an unmarried family can be committed), now the question is whether marrige increases the % of committed famlies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    Nothing. I'm just surprised such rare creatures actually exist.
    And then women wonder why they get treated like crap. You have to give respect to get respect.
    "Create like a god, command like a king, work like a slave."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    Nothing. I'm just surprised such rare creatures actually exist.
    wow, that sounds like quite a string of bad experiences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    And then women wonder why they get treated like crap. You have to give respect to get respect.
    I was being facetious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    I was being facetious.
    I know this wasn't directed at me exactly, but, sometimes, I'm bad when it comes to sensing sarcasm online.

    This is just a future warning, on my mistranslations I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cogdecree View Post
    Sometimes, I'm bad when it comes to sensing sarcasm online.
    I expect a joke about about how women are useful only for their bodies would have been received a little less charitably.
    "Create like a god, command like a king, work like a slave."

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    Probably!

    Double standards are aaaaaaallllllllllll over the place, aren't they?

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    I guess that's easier than admitting when you're wrong.
    "Create like a god, command like a king, work like a slave."

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    *sigh*

    This is too heavy for me this time of day. Fun while it lasted, though.

    I'm out.
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    children born to married couples on the whole have better education, are more provided for in terms of material wealth, have role models for each gender, are more likely to be in the presence of one of their parents most of the time during their formative years thus ensuring at least some level of discipline w/o which it becomes easier for children to essentially grow up "wild."

    in single parent homes the parent naturally has to earn a living and in so doing creates a void in a young child's life that is going to be filled one way or another. in a lot of cases this void is filled by negative elements. in other words, kids don't just grow up "good." morality, good behavior, work ethic, culture does not just show up and i get the feeling that the people in this thread advocating the idea that marriage is essentially pointless or useless do no realize this or simply take it for granted.

    single parents that wind up performing their role with flying colors are most definitely the exception to the rule. the value placed on marriage should not be based on such exceptions.

    there are a lot of statistics on rates of crime, levels of education, and so on are in large part based on what sort of environment a person has growing up and as i mentioned above, marriage is has a definitively positive influence in all these areas.

    of course, divorce rates in the past were much lower because marriage was essentially held together for economic reasons. now, the primary reason for getting married is more and more becomming one of sentiment or "love" which is a far more fickle foundation upon which to base an institution such as marriage and a family. of course, that's not to say that basing a marriage on love is bad, just that it is not nearly as strong as economics (how that for NTism...)
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