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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinlan View Post
    I don't even see the appeal of designing their looks, is eye colour really that important?
    I always thought it would be funny if parents who were so shallow as to try and design their kids' eye colors and hair colors were rewarded by only being able to see their child as hideously ugly (the child would be normal, but would look really ugly to the parents, though they'd have their blue eyes and blond hair).

    Of course this would never happen and also it would be cruel to the kids in the end, if it even could happen. Just an amusing idea to punish the cruddy parents who would do this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Linguist View Post
    First of all, Nazis aren't interested in eye color specifically - they are interested in eye color only as a part of the general anthropological racial type, which does not only include blue eyes. As an example, many semitic groups also have blue and green eyes. Just to clarify.

    So I think the National Socialist argument is totally crazy.

    That being said, there is a real problem with this technology. It's unnatural. Diseases and genetic differences are there for a reason.

    I also really LOVE the idea of a private company controlling the growth of future generations. Lovely.
    I'm pretty sure it would be a for-profit business, so it would be the parents deciding what their children end up like. Would you prefer state-enforced eugenics, like in 20th-Century Germany or Sweden? Gene therapy has the power to help tens of millions of people around the world. If people get stupid, then there may be unforeseen consequences that are negative, but that is no reason not to achieve medical breakthroughs. At my old job in Philadelphia, the ophthalmic researchers restored partial vision to a legally blind person in Italy using viruses as vectors to deliver transgenes that turn on cells in the retina. How can that be a bad thing?
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    I would only do it when the technology is perfected. Then I wont have a chance to get a mutant baby due to some procedure defect, thus screwing the whole reason I wanted to do it in the first place: A no-risk baby. I wouldn't want the genes altered in any way besides to alter the genes that cause genetic defects.

    To me, genetic defects, even though they're natural and rare, really inhibit me from thinking of wanting a child. I wouldn't want my wife to go through nine months of that kind of discomfort, then the agony of childbirth, just to have a child that we will have to take close care of for the rest of its/our life. Granted some -could- say that normal kids are the same way.

    *Shrug* It just would feel extraordinarily unfair.

    On another level... If this became commonly affordable, in-breeding would disappear, and depending on how certain Amish groups felt about using the technology, they would never have to bring in new blood to freshen the community. This could be great for them culturally, I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    I'm pretty sure it would be a for-profit business, so it would be the parents deciding what their children end up like. Would you prefer state-enforced eugenics, like in 20th-Century Germany or Sweden?
    I for one oppose eugenics, whether state-enforced or for profit. It's not the job of parents to determine what biological traits their children will or will not have. A primary element of parenthood and family is the concept of unconditional love.

    There's a whole shitload of flawed philosophical presuppositions that lay at the heart of support for eugenics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    I for one oppose eugenics, whether state-enforced or for profit. It's not the job of parents to determine what biological traits their children will or will not have. A primary element of parenthood and family is the concept of unconditional love.

    There's a whole shitload of flawed philosophical presuppositions that lay at the heart of support for eugenics.
    Every new technology presents opportunities for good and for ill. That doesn't mean we stop creating them. There will be a new frontier in bioethics, and people will have to make hard decisions.
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    I'm not arguing against technology. I'm arguing against unethical uses of technology.

    I happen to agree with Nietzsche when he stated that any truth that threatens the dignity of life is not really a truth but an error. Although I'll readily admit that I have a more Christian interpretation of that than he did.

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