User Tag List

12311 Last

Results 1 to 10 of 375

  1. #1
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    1,128

    Question Republican? WHY?

    All right.

    I've thought this for years, and now I'll say it.


    Why would anyone want to be a republican?

  2. #2
    Permabanned
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    MBTI
    ISTP
    Enneagram
    9w8
    Posts
    3,187

    Default

    Probably for the same reason many claim to hate republicans; because the current slew of democrats in politics are taking us to fascism. Truth be told, they were/are both doing the same thing. The only difference is one party originally had solid principles, but forgot/abandoned them in the political realm. The other party also had principles, but they have become terribly skewed and stretched until they turned into the most self destructive, nonsensical, unintelligent, ideologies ever conceived by man (and they have been, many many many times before...). Pick your poison...

  3. #3
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    1,128

    Default

    That doesn't explain anything that I want to know, though thanks for trying.

    Currently, the republican party is a certain way (I won't assign a value to it, because that's not the point of this thread).

    So why do people who are republicans NOW identify as being such?

  4. #4
    heart on fire
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    8,457

    Default

    People are Republican for the same reason people are Democrats or other political groups. Something in the propaganda put out appeals to their prejudices and biases. They haven't seen the similarities between what the two sides actually DO once in office.

    Republicans seem to have been sucessful attaching a sense of John Wayne type independence and manliness to their image, it seems to soothe masculine vainity particularly well.

  5. #5
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    1,128

    Default

    What makes the current Republican party appealing and why? WHICH values does it appeal to? And don't just tell me "X". If you say one value, it's gotta make sense. It can't be contradicted by another value held by the party. I'm trying to figure out what the pull is.

  6. #6
    IRL is not real Cimarron's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    MBTI
    ISTJ
    Enneagram
    5w6 sp/so
    Posts
    3,424

    Default

    They're a political party, so they have selling points. Those selling points work with some people. It's the things Republican politicians say in their speeches and such, you'll hear them say it on the radio or T.V., etc. If you look at the Party website, those words are probably written all over the place--you'll find their sales-pitch jumping out at you.
    You can't spell "justice" without ISTJ.

  7. #7
    Order Now! pure_mercury's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    MBTI
    ESFJ
    Posts
    6,946

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by maliafee View Post
    What makes the current Republican party appealing and why? WHICH values does it appeal to? And don't just tell me "X". If you say one value, it's gotta make sense. It can't be contradicted by another value held by the party. I'm trying to figure out what the pull is.

    You're not going to get a satisfactory answer, then. Both major political parties have "values" that contradict others in their platforms.
    Who wants to try a bottle of merc's "Extroversion Olive Oil?"

  8. #8
    Freshman Member simulatedworld's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    MBTI
    ENTP
    Enneagram
    7w6 sx/so
    Socionics
    ILE
    Posts
    5,554

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by maliafee View Post
    What makes the current Republican party appealing and why? WHICH values does it appeal to? And don't just tell me "X". If you say one value, it's gotta make sense. It can't be contradicted by another value held by the party. I'm trying to figure out what the pull is.
    Frankly, most people's political beliefs are pretty short-sighted and tend to aim mostly for what's good for them personally. (Note how once the economy goes down the shitter, we get this huge populist movement to make sure the little guy has enough. Once the economy rights itself, we will swing back to the right and cut social programs--everybody hates a welfare state until he needs welfare.)

    It's no coincidence, then, that Republicans tend to value:

    On economics--

    --Deregulation of business and private enterprise (more profit for upper and upper-middle class business owners)
    --Comparatively lower taxes (in neoconservatism they give the cuts mostly to the upper class LOLZ) (more profit for people who own businesses or otherwise make more money than most people)
    --Strong emphasis on the capitalist business model, great rewards for anyone willing to work really hard (supposedly), and comparatively less social support net provided by government
    --Less socialization of industries that, as they see it, could be run more efficiently by private owners
    --Generally less redistribution of wealth; the logic goes that the government should exist primarily to protect us from each other and promote traditional values, so they don't like having high percentages of their paychecks taken for use on causes they don't necessarily support or care about. Republicans tend to see your economic success/failure as entirely up to you--anyone who's not doing as well as you isn't working hard enough!


    On social issues--

    --Big focus on "traditional family values"
    --General opposition to new legislation or changes in social attitudes and policy (unless it supports the religious agenda--then it's GOOD change)
    --More recently, a heavily religious focus without much regard for the Bill of Rights



    So basically, people are Republicans mainly because they don't agree with the idea of forced contribution to a social support net, and they don't think the government has any right or reason to be large enough to require more than a pretty small percentage of their paychecks. They think that a lot of redistribution of wealth ("government handouts", as they like to call it) is counterproductive to the spirit of the American Dream of hard work for great success, and they think this sort of thing diminishes the value of their own hard work and unfairly rewards the lazy.

    More Reagan-style Republicans are with the party largely for its recent shift toward fundamentalist, evangelical Christian views.
    If you could be anything you want, I bet you'd be disappointed--am I right?

  9. #9
    Furry Critter with Claws Kiddo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    MBTI
    OMNi
    Posts
    2,790

    Default

    1. Because they are truly afraid of anything that resembles Socialism.
    2. Because they believe hard work and diligence is all that is needed in this country to become successful and wealthy.
    3. Because their parents or peers are Republican.
    4. Because their respective religious organization tells them the moral fabric of society is contingent upon protecting the status quo from hedonistic progressive policies.
    5. Because they believe limited government and less market regulation is the key to prosperity and freedom.
    6. Because they believe that self determination and liberty are the most essential and rational values.

    7. Because they refuse to acknowledge that in reality Republican social policies are incompatible with Republican economic policies and that the Republican party really only amounts to Libertarians (traditional conservatives) and Traditionalists (fundamentalist Christians) who have made an uneasy alliance with one another because otherwise they wouldn't have the numbers to stem off progressives and liberals.
    Quote Originally Posted by Silently Honest View Post
    OMNi: Wisdom at the cost of Sanity.

  10. #10
    Emperor/Dictator kyuuei's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    MBTI
    enfp
    Enneagram
    8
    Posts
    13,881

    Default

    I've never heard such pessimistic people in all my life as a democrat talking politics. Ya'll need a bit of sunshine.

    I'm conservative, but not republican. I don't think I'll be able to write anything that others haven't put beautifully. But kiddo, are you being sarcastic when you talk about the hard work?

    I think self reliance and the support of the community to keep each other self reliant are key aspects of American life and are essential to the prosperity of the country. Everyone does what they can, is how it's suppose to work. The hard work value can be traced back to the friggen Pilgrims, it's a key focus of American society from the get-go.

    I'm not socalist by any sense of the word.. I don't think there is anything wrong with that government system itself, only that if I wanted to live under socialism I would move to a place that is socialist already instead of trying to pull my hair out and stress about the other 50someodd% that's like me. I like America the way it is, I think it just needs work.
    Kantgirl: Just say "I'm feminine and I'll punch anyone who says otherwise!"
    Halla74: Think your way through the world. Feel your way through life.

    Cimarron: maybe Prpl will be your girl-bud
    prplchknz: i don't like it

    In Search Of... ... Kiwi Sketch Art ... Dream Journal ... Kyuuei's Cook book ... Kyu's Tiny House Blog ... Minimalist Challenge ... Kyu's Savings Challenge

Similar Threads

  1. Why are you here?
    By rhinosaur in forum The Bonfire
    Replies: 30
    Last Post: 05-19-2011, 06:08 AM
  2. Religion... why?
    By wyrdsister in forum Philosophy and Spirituality
    Replies: 175
    Last Post: 01-28-2010, 04:31 PM
  3. Why I am here
    By HilbertSpace in forum Welcomes and Introductions
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 04-25-2007, 01:18 AM
  4. Why?
    By SolitaryWalker in forum Welcomes and Introductions
    Replies: 29
    Last Post: 04-24-2007, 06:55 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO