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    Quote Originally Posted by professor goodstain View Post
    Then shouldn't the progressive communists of today pay the religious communists to live on their land?
    I don't care what they do. I just like talking about the Pilgrams and the Puritans.

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    "1 a: a theory advocating elimination of private property b: a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed"

    (did the not sell, trade, and barter in self interest, vs free exhcange)

    "2capitalized a: a doctrine based on revolutionary Marxian socialism and Marxism-Leninism that was the official ideology of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics b: a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production c: a final stage of society in Marxist theory in which the state has withered away and economic goods are distributed equitably d: communist systems collectively"

    The Final stage being, "classless, stateless and oppression-free society" was this the pilgrims?

    As copied from websters dictionary, even they has different meanings and implications for communism.
    communism - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    I don't care what they do. I just like talking about the Pilgrams and the Puritans.
    You seem to have directed my interest in the direction of that portion of history. I see progressive and religious stuff all thoughout the land. There seems to be ties to this history. It seems the Natives were religious to their religion then those progressive pilgrams showed up.
    everyone uses every function about evenly. take NE for example. if there are those who don't use it much, then why are there such massive amounts of people constantly flowing through Wallmart with 20 items or less?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cogdecree View Post
    "1 a: a theory advocating elimination of private property b: a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed"

    (did the not sell, trade, and barter in self interest, vs free exhcange)

    "2capitalized a: a doctrine based on revolutionary Marxian socialism and Marxism-Leninism that was the official ideology of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics b: a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production c: a final stage of society in Marxist theory in which the state has withered away and economic goods are distributed equitably d: communist systems collectively"

    The Final stage being, "classless, stateless and oppression-free society" was this the pilgrims?

    As copied from websters dictionary, even they has different meanings and implications for communism.
    communism - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary
    Under the first definition B of communism. I repeat, I never claimed they were Marxist type communists, only that they lived under a economic system of communism based on religion.

    The crops and (the profits on) the Pilgrims grew on their communal land taken as a whole for the profit of the community as a whole. They have different meanings because all of those meanings they listed fall under communism, but they don't all fall under Marxism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by professor goodstain View Post
    You seem to have directed my interest in the direction of that portion of history. I see progressive and religious stuff all thoughout the land. There seems to be ties to this history. It seems the Natives were religious to their religion then those progressive pilgrams showed up.
    It seems that goodstain has been seemingly redundant with the word seem
    everyone uses every function about evenly. take NE for example. if there are those who don't use it much, then why are there such massive amounts of people constantly flowing through Wallmart with 20 items or less?

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    What separates communism from tribal living? Or is communism the most basic lifestyle?
    Yet relatively new to the scene? It was a radical idea when it came about.

    Perhaps this is where, my confusion lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cogdecree View Post
    What separates communism from tribal living? Or is communism the most basic lifestyle?
    Yet relatively new to the scene? It was a radical idea when it came about.

    Perhaps this is where, my confusion lies.
    Communism can have a different use as a symbol for meaning when it is morphologically changed due to overlaps with other symbols associated with it.
    everyone uses every function about evenly. take NE for example. if there are those who don't use it much, then why are there such massive amounts of people constantly flowing through Wallmart with 20 items or less?

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    I'll consent either way, I suppose I'm using current communism to judge basic communism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cogdecree View Post
    I'll consent either way, I suppose I'm using current communism to judge basic communism.
    You're all good. You just gave an example of this overlap due to association.
    everyone uses every function about evenly. take NE for example. if there are those who don't use it much, then why are there such massive amounts of people constantly flowing through Wallmart with 20 items or less?

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    I think the confusion lies in thinking in the same language we write in.
    everyone uses every function about evenly. take NE for example. if there are those who don't use it much, then why are there such massive amounts of people constantly flowing through Wallmart with 20 items or less?

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