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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    ^ Maybe not, but I'm pretty confident that oranges are just flat out better than apples in every way imaginable.
    Not if you are trying to make an apple pie.
    Who wants to try a bottle of merc's "Extroversion Olive Oil?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    Theft is not labour.
    No, but Labour frequently practices theft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    Explain?
    Because keeping minorities in an unending state of feeling "oppressed" enables the political left to count on the minority vote in perpetuity. That is why liberals generally oppose welfare reform, and why it took the implicit threat of the mid-term election to get Clinton to pass some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    ^ Maybe not, but I'm pretty confident that oranges are just flat out better than apples in every way imaginable.
    Apple is originally an Elamite word.
    Elam. The Garden of Eden.
    Orange is a late comer.

    My grandmother said:
    Eat an apple a day.
    It keeps the doctor away.
    Old women knew what.

    Not any more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oberon View Post
    No, but Labour frequently practices theft.
    True.

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    The problem that I have with a more true libertarian philosophy is that, while it seems to work well up front, it tends to devolve, because the goal of pretty much any business enterprise is to gather economic power (money) to oneself. That's not bad in principle, and can serve as a motivating factor to provide better goods and services and innovation to customers (a good thing for everyone). However... never forget that the goal isn't to provide innovation, goods, OR services. It's to accumulate money. And at some point, it becomes easier to use the power you've got to accumulate more, rather than to compete on merit. Is it easier to spend money making a better product, or simply buy legislation and marketing to convince people that it's a good thing to give you more money?

    And in the extreme cases you wind up with Standard Oil or the Bell system, monopolies that aren't accountable to the people that they're ostensibly serving, that can extract pretty much however much profit they can get away with, without providing better service. Government is really the only entity that is (nominally, at least - although it often doesn't feel like it) accountable to the people with the power to regulate these situations. That's what boggles me about the libertarian viewpoint... true competition *depends* upon regulation - not the lack of it.

    And that's even ignoring the investment bank risky-investments-that-look-great-on-paper-and-if-we-lose-we'll-get-public-funds-because-we're-too-big-to-fail thing.

    If you're going to tout competition... you have to also tout rules that continue to make it a *fair* competition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    So maybe I missed it, but are there any actual Republicans here? Have the Democrats and liberals succeeded in making the word "Republican" completely derogatory?
    no, the republicans themselves have done a good job over the last years

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    I think many of the old-school Republicans have jumped ship to the Libertarians. Some are hanging onto the Republican label because the party is still slightly more politically viable than Libertarian party but I don't know how long that will last.

    BTW my grandma is still a Republican and she's a very nice lady.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    I think many of the old-school Republicans have jumped ship to the Libertarians. Some are hanging onto the Republican label because the party is still slightly more politically viable than Libertarian party but I don't know how long that will last.

    BTW my grandma is still a Republican and she's a very nice lady.
    No she's not, she's an evil bible thumping hatemonger.

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    I'm a registered Independent. I find both sides to be shills for the same elites. C'est la vi
    http://www.typologycentral.com/forum...ml#post1161526

    "They the type of cats who pollute the whole shoreline. Have it purified. Sell it for a $1.25"

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