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    Quote Originally Posted by Qre:us View Post
    Dude, if the UN decided to fuck you, then failed to call you the next morning, I got one advice: get over it!

    There are more fish in the sea, ol'chap!
    But i paid for that "fuck" with my taxes. Never get over it. You obviously got over that "no-call". Because your daddy pays your bills.
    everyone uses every function about evenly. take NE for example. if there are those who don't use it much, then why are there such massive amounts of people constantly flowing through Wallmart with 20 items or less?

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    Quote Originally Posted by professor goodstain View Post
    But i paid for that "fuck"

    Lesson learned: next time don't try the prostitute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qre:us View Post
    Lesson learned: next time don't try the prostitute.
    I have to use the prostitute. It's not up to me. If it were up to me i'd masterbate.
    everyone uses every function about evenly. take NE for example. if there are those who don't use it much, then why are there such massive amounts of people constantly flowing through Wallmart with 20 items or less?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oberon View Post
    Africa is a beautiful place and a horrifying place. Fall in love with Africa, and it'll break your heart.

    Here's what I consider a brutal truth about aid to Africa:

    So that is the only one response, and itís a brutal one: accept that we are powerless to change Africa, and leave them to sink or swim, by themselves.

    It sounds dreadful to say it, but if the entire African continent dissolves into a seething maelstrom of disease, famine and brutality, thatís just too damn bad. We have better things to do--sometimes, you just have to say, "Canít do anything about it."

    The viciousness, the cruelty, the corruption, the duplicity, the savagery, and the incompetence is endemic to the entire continent, and is so much of an anathema to any right-thinking person that the civilized imagination simply stalls when faced with its ubiquity, and with the enormity of trying to fix it. The Western media shouldnít even bother reporting on it. All that does is arouse our feelings of horror, and the instinctive need to do something, anything--but everything has been tried before, and failed. Everything, of course, except self-reliance.
    Africa Wins Again.
    Self-reliance. What an interesting thing. I have a feeling though, that the right to exercise self-reliance depends on some feeling of having achieved some level of individual freedom/acknowledgement of individual rights. I also might take a shot in the dark and guess that these freedom and rights comes out of political systems that's as opposite to the ones we see in Sub-saharan Africa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    Hmm I think it's mostly inaccurate to call what you're talking about socialism, if what you're talking about - the cause of the greater good at the expense of a few - lines up with Social Democracy or center-leftism, which I think it might.

    Noooo...I never used the word socialism until STAIN threw it at me, informing me that that is my pov (oh! and that I'm also ESTJ, YESH!!! ), and... well...ah:

    "HEY! Meet the new socialist ESTJ, yours shiningly [and orderly] truly! Truly truly!!"

    *NB: I didn't wanna bring in philosophy in first place...STAIN stained this whole thread.

    Btw, the part that's bolded, that's referring to utilitarianism not socialism (in the context of the posts you're discussing). Um...ya.

    Utilitarianism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Technically, Soc Dem/center-leftism can be considered within the large spectrum of ideologies represented by 'socialism' by some, but on the very very lite side. Not what people think about when they hear the word socialism.

    I personally don't mind the word being thrown around. It still has relatively negative connotations, but I think if it can be more associated with the less extreme side of spectrum, it's image will improve, and it won't be used as a fighting word as much.
    Uh...okay. Sure.

    Prejudice against socialists now?? Oh, world, when will this hate end???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antisocial one View Post
    Because of this we are loosing huge number of species all the time since those people are consuming the entire system by consuming animals, destroying ecological balance what destroys organisms that survive human activity. Also they are chopping the forests for fire wood, house construction and to expand local crop production.
    What will happen when they spend their finite supplies? Guess.
    So, THAT'S WHY the lions are going extinct in Africa...dem's being eaten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by professor goodstain View Post
    If it were up to me i'd masterbate.
    Even your hand (fist?) rejects you? Muffin!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qre:us View Post
    Noooo...I never used the word socialism until STAIN threw it at me, informing me that that is my pov (oh! and that I'm also ESTJ, YESH!!! ), and... well...ah:

    "HEY! Meet the new socialist ESTJ, yours shiningly [and orderly] truly! Truly truly!!"

    *NB: I didn't wanna bring in philosophy in first place...STAIN stained this whole thread.

    Btw, the part that's bolded, that's referring to utilitarianism not socialism (in the context of the posts you're discussing). Um...ya.

    Utilitarianism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Uh...okay. Sure.

    Prejudice against socialists now?? Oh, world, when will this hate end???
    Actually, there is nothing in Utilitarianism that says we have to give to the greater good at the expense of the few... that would be a political philosophy.

    If you believe in Utilitarianism, you still have to pick a political orientation. Now, Utilitarianism as a life stance, I think matches up better with Left politics. But Utilitarianism can be used in conjunction with several different political stances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kangirl View Post
    I don't really understand the point you're making. Are you conceding that most/all would choose for-profit farming? Or arguing it? Or is it a different point?
    Third one. Not really subsistence farming at all. It was a poor choice of example if we talk of present-day Africa (I think I mentioned this already). I was talking of examples of individuals/small communities (indigenous groups, I mentioned?), who can survive well through self-sufficiency and interaction with their land, irregardless of any kind of intervention in the first place by 'others'...and what to ask of them (in terms of earn a 'wage'), when we (the outsiders) disturped them/their system, and then say, 'oh, ya, play by our rules, or drown'.

    In answer to "what do I say" - well, probably not much. Being introduced to 'the outside world' has happened to all populations on earth, it's not something I view as morally right or wrong (not saying you do) - it's an inevitability. If I did say something I might say "here, have at it".
    There's being introduced. Which, I may even give you, inevitable. Then there's instances where the word 'introduced' becomes an understatement. Like....slave trade.

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    how long have we been "helping" africa and what do we really have to show for it?
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