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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    Alexander Tytler and Benjamin Franklin were around long before the time of what is now modern liberalism. Franklin was more of a classical liberal in the economic sense in his day, before the controversy over antitrust laws and giant US manufacturing monopolies. These days, he might have very well been a modern liberal.
    Interesting take. Do you do that with every historical figure? Do you just assume everyone that lived in the past would agree with you if they lived today?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    Interesting take. Do you do that with every historical figure? Do you just assume everyone that lived in the past would agree with you if they lived today?
    I'd have to look at the specific issue. Probable sometimes, and others, not.

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    *sits back and watches the fray*

    Seriously - and here is what I do not understand - where is all this money coming from? Surely tax revenue cannot cover all these costs in addition to regular costs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Linguist View Post
    *sits back and watches the fray*

    Seriously - and here is what I do not understand - where is all this money coming from? Surely tax revenue cannot cover all these costs in addition to regular costs.
    Taxes are going to be raised for the people in the highest income brackets and on some types of businesses and some existing tax loopholes will be closed. I see that working into the idea that spending will be cut and the deficit will be lowered or cut in half in a couple years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    Taxes are going to be raised for the people in the highest income brackets and on some types of businesses and some existing tax loopholes will be closed. I see that working into the idea that spending will be cut and the deficit will be lowered or cut in half in a couple years.
    Hmm I'd like to see a measure like that get passed - and then I'd like to see if it really works....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    I'd have to look at the specific issue. Probable sometimes, and others, not.
    What data do you have that leads you to the conclusion that Franklin would be a "modern liberal"?
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Linguist View Post
    *sits back and watches the fray*

    Seriously - and here is what I do not understand - where is all this money coming from? Surely tax revenue cannot cover all these costs in addition to regular costs.
    We borrow it from China and continue the facade for as long as we can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Udog View Post
    We borrow it from China and continue the facade for as long as we can.
    That's once alternative I had already considered, and if that is the case, the Chinese are laughing their asses off at you (not that you can help it - it's your bloody political leaders, which admittedly, are probably no better or worse than ours).
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    The Chinese aren't laughing, maybe at the situation sure, but they really have to buy the debt, amiright? At least that is my understanding of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Linguist View Post
    That's once alternative I had already considered, and if that is the case, the Chinese are laughing their asses off at you (not that you can help it - it's your bloody political leaders, which admittedly, are probably no better or worse than ours).
    Check my thread about China and the USD. They aren't laughing, at all :/ . Hillary Clinton had to go there over the weekend and practically beg them to continue buying our treasuries (our debt), and communicating the idea that, "If we fall, you fall." China, mark my words, is very close (perhaps months or less) to the point where it will refuse to buy our debt.

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