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    Quote Originally Posted by 01011010 View Post
    Pedophiles don't deserve to live, one time offense or not. The rest is up for interpretation.
    I would agree with you that it is in society's best interest to just execute sex offenders. Although, like YLJ, I would want more substantial burden of proof before execution than a criminal trial. One of the biggest reasons for my stance is that sex offenders were often sexually abused as children, themselves. It's a cycle that needs to be broken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    I would agree with you that it is in society's best interest to just execute sex offenders. Although, like YLJ, I would want more substantial burden of proof before execution than a criminal trial. One of the biggest reasons for my stance is that sex offenders were often sexually abused as children, themselves. It's a cycle that needs to be broken.
    So you propose to break the cycle by killing people for being victims of childhood sexual abuse?
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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    So you propose to break the cycle by killing people for being victims of childhood sexual abuse?
    That's not what I said, but you know that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    That's not what I said, but you know that.
    LOL ya got me. Seriously though how do we break that cycle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    This is a poor comparison. Do you understand why?
    Not really. Because the man is going to need to use his hands for more than just stabbing?

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    The chemical castration does result in a large removal of sex drive itself. So yes, that helps remove the intensity of the desire.

    But the behavior and underlying psychological framework is still in place. Sometimes people go through the motions of things that they no longer feel, because it's a pattern of behavior that they established and ingrained for a long period of time.

    The other problem with meds (including chemical castration) is that they wear off. How do you get a person to take meds on a regular cycle if they don't want to? Obviously the program would need lots of oversight. The drive will come back very quickly once someone goes off meds, even if the lack of T has left them sterile. And the drive is the issue in people's minds here as a motivating force.
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    serves them right. i like that. hopefully they won't punish the wrong guy.

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    i think this is entirely reasonable seeing as how they have a choice in the matter... two choices actually. the first was whether or not to commit the original act and the second is between long-term imprisonment or castration.

    i'd be interested to see how this affects the sexual offense numbers in the czech republic.
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    NTJ ruthlessness aside, the ends don't always justify the means. Totally removing all civil rights and creating a totalitarian police state would reduce the rates of all crimes; that doesn't make it a good idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YourLocalJesus View Post
    As long as it can be proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that it is a crime they committed and not sex with consent... Then yeah... And in the case of pedophiles, torture them to death. But it's got to be proven.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miked277 View Post
    i'd be interested to see how this affects the sexual offense numbers in the czech republic.
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