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    Quote Originally Posted by Anja View Post
    In the case of the economy I think it's reckoned that greed played a part.
    What does this mean?

    I'm not as pessimistic as some other people on here regarding the economy, at least in the short term. I don't think the current system will collapse to the point where we have anarchy, at least not this time around. When the next bubble bursts, my opinion may change.
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anja View Post
    Locally we are already talking about paring down mail delivery and garbage service. Water prep is under a financial burden. Disease will be a major issue and access to medication will be limited.

    It's pretty staggering when you think of the number of services we take for granted.

    Sex for goats! Hah. Gotta love it.
    On OKCupid, there's a question to the effect of "In a certain light, wouldn't nuclear war be exciting?" I have to answer yes, though that doesn't mean that I WANT nuclear war. I think I feel the same way about an economy collapse.

    Though truly - I am one of the lucky ones with a more-secure-than-most job. So it's easy for me not to worry too much in the short run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    What does this mean?

    I'm not as pessimistic as some other people on here regarding the economy, at least in the short term. I don't think the current system will collapse to the point where we have anarchy, at least not this time around. When the next bubble bursts, my opinion may change.
    *Takes out crystal ball and peers deeply. Intones in serious voice, "Your opinion will be changing within six months, Guy."*

    You don't understand the part greed has played in our present problems? That's hard for me to understand!
    "No ray of sunshine is ever lost, but the green which it awakes into existence needs time to sprout, and it is not always granted to the sower to see the harvest. All work that is worth anything is done in faith." - Albert Schweitzer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anja View Post
    You don't understand the part greed has played in our present problems? That's hard for me to understand!

    That's cuz you're anti-Adam Smith! Grrrarrr *nt-nf headbutts*

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    Well, I'll say more, Noz. And what I can remember about Adam Smith is little. I don't think in terms of theory to solve problems, ya know. Not an INFP thing, I think.

    My thought is that people who see our main problem as being economic aren't seeing the bigger picture. If it were simply that it may be fixable with wise decisions and patience.

    We have a greater problem with people.

    It's as though we have,en masse, become a world of lemmings rushing willy-nilly into self-destruction. A focus on econmomics has precipitated much of this and may be the main causal factor.

    I just deleted the rest of a very long, depressing post here listing all the problems which are going to affect our fixing of the economic crisis.

    It's all going to get very basic. Eat, drink, find a safe place to sleep.

    I know little of economics. But I do know about people and the inmates are running the asylum.

    (And, damn! It's about our turn! )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anja View Post
    You don't understand the part greed has played in our present problems? That's hard for me to understand!
    First you need to define greed, because I have the feeling that definition varies between people. Then you need to explain why "greed" is a problem.
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    I can't believe that you're asking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anja View Post
    I can't believe that you're asking.
    The fact that you're so astounded by my inquiry demonstrates how much our perspectives differ.

    I'll ask again, please define greed.
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anja View Post
    I can't believe that you're asking.
    Libertarians and conservatives don't like talking about greed, because they're pro unregulated free-market.

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    I think you're inviting me into a game.

    Here's a couple of examples:

    Asking for federal assistance and then giving yourself a chunky bonus.

    Asking for federal assistance and then planning to buy a new superject from France.
    "No ray of sunshine is ever lost, but the green which it awakes into existence needs time to sprout, and it is not always granted to the sower to see the harvest. All work that is worth anything is done in faith." - Albert Schweitzer

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