01-26-2009, 08:02 PM #101
01-26-2009, 08:04 PM #102
01-26-2009, 08:05 PM #103
01-26-2009, 08:24 PM #104
I also believe most of the balls were running concurrently, and the president made an appearance at each one for short periods of time to each, regardless of when the ball started or ended.
To me, very important = something you might even have to go out of the way for to ensure you attend. I'm not going to get into the reasons why going out of your way to honor those that set the standards for our military soldiers is important. If you don't think that is at all important, my words aren't going to change your mind.
And, doing that, I ended up with 2 military balls - choose 1. He made a choice for diplomacy. Obama, I'm sure we can all agree, probably gave very careful consideration, when choosing from all the balls, which one he would attend. And, I'm sure it wasn't a revelation to him what missing out on the Heroe's ball would do. He made a strategic choice which is reflective of his campaign for: (a) rebuilding diplomacy b/w US with the international community (and how they view us), (b) downplay the synonymous notion that USA=military as many have come to know USA as of current. There is more to USA than sheer physical force, and I believe this president is out to prove that.
That does not, however mean that him not going to the ball means he doesn't support it (or its cause). Like you challenged: it is not either/or, so ...
If you don't think that is at all important, my words aren't going to change your mind.
01-26-2009, 08:57 PM #105
01-26-2009, 09:04 PM #106
I probably don't get it because I have no desire to be a soldier and don't understand that mentality, so I'll take your word for it.
01-26-2009, 09:15 PM #107
^ This is it exactly. It doesn't matter if he missed 10, 20, 100 balls for the military.. It didn't matter at all.. but it should be an honor to meet those men that got those medals, and it is nothing shy of outrage that he didn't at least issue a formal apology to them in advance if he was not going to be there.
"Not thinking it's as important as other obligations (considering one nod to the military is enough), and not thinking it's not important at all...not the same. "
My words simply meant I'm going in circles, and I don't like arguing over the same points again and again. I think it's important to nod at the military..I think it's also important to nod at those of the past. They are no longer military, they are veterans. They have already done their time, but more importantly.. They are the standards set so that we can have freedom. They're heroes, just like we celebrate Martin Luther King day because he was a hero.. We held a ball to support them. Something above the rest. That's my point. It isn't that it's just any ball, or just any scheduled event. It was something much more important than that. No apology even? He has advisors and staff all over the place.. surely someone noticed they were going to miss something like this. He had time to create and make an official apology, or attend. I think it's rude he did not at least do that much. A poor decision made on his part. And an Outrageous one to me, personally, as someone who KNOWS how hard it would have to be to even be in a position to go above and beyond what you're called to do.. and to go even farther than that?? Nothing less than a hero. And should be treated as nothing less.
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01-27-2009, 04:17 AM #108
01-27-2009, 09:21 AM #109
^forgive me if it's been stated but what is this "right thing" he did?
01-27-2009, 09:47 AM #110
Wow, big deal. When something important happens (such as this) let me know. Such as if he decides to leave our troops without proper supplies and weapons or puts them in harms way causing thousands to die unnecessarily. Sure he could have gone but he didn't and I'm sure there was a reason. Nice spin tho.
PS also if this Ball such a huge deal why isn't there more media coverage informing us that it's approaching? I mean why wait until a President doesn't show. I wonder if he is the only President who has never made an appearance? And what's with Oprah not being at any of the 10 Balls the Obama's went to? What's this world coming to?!?
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