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  • The U.S. turned farther right than most think.

    3 25.00%
  • Most perceptions are correct.

    1 8.33%
  • The U.S. did not turn as far right as most think.

    5 41.67%
  • U.S. culture/society shifted right.

    0 0%
  • U.S. government shifted right.

    3 25.00%
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    He rose taxes, which included the biggest tax hike since WWII, and grew government. Reagan made a Right-turn, only in rhetoric.
    Marginal income tax rates definitely decreased during the Reagan Administration. As for "biggest tax hike," that's debatable. The budget deficit definitely increased majorly, though. Defense spending shot through the roof, and the deficit nearly quadrupled. Not a very "small-government" thing to do. He was quite the disappointment for the true believers, like most politicians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    Marginal income tax rates definitely decreased during the Reagan Administration. As for "biggest tax hike," that's debatable. The budget deficit definitely increased majorly, though. Defense spending shot through the roof, and the deficit nearly quadrupled. Not a very "small-government" thing to do. He was quite the disappointment for the true believers, like most politicians.
    Do you think national defense should/can be left to the free market? If you don't, where do you draw the line for how much should be spent on military? I mean evidently you don't think the relatively more competent military left by Reagan to the one under Clinton was good enough of a reason for the increase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by booyalab View Post
    Do you think national defense should/can be left to the free market? If you don't, where do you draw the line for how much should be spent on military? I mean evidently you don't think the relatively more competent military left by Reagan to the one under Clinton was good enough of a reason for the increase.
    I wouldn't leave spending on National Defence to the free market, no. However, that doesn't mean increased spending is worthwhile just because it comes from a government source. Was it worthwhile in the Reagan era case? Debatable, and almost impossible to quantify. Is spending time at war a sign of good defence spending or bad? Probably both...

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    Quote Originally Posted by booyalab View Post
    Do you think national defense should/can be left to the free market? If you don't, where do you draw the line for how much should be spent on military? I mean evidently you don't think the relatively more competent military left by Reagan to the one under Clinton was good enough of a reason for the increase.
    No, I don't. You can't really provide for a national defense on an individual basis. I still think that Reagan spent too much, intervened abroad too often, and really didn't care about the deficit, when he should have.
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    Reagan era defense expenditures were a waste because they were completely unnecessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    Reagan era defense expenditures were a waste because they were completely unnecessary.
    Well, maybe. But I think he was just playing a game of chicken with the Soviets, knowing they'd go bankrupt before us. It worked, anyway. Whether it was worth it is another matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EffEmDoubleyou View Post
    Well, maybe. But I think he was just playing a game of chicken with the Soviets, knowing they'd go bankrupt before us. It worked, anyway. Whether it was worth it is another matter.
    Well, the thing is, I'm pretty sure the USSR was going to collapse without us. We had been over-estimating for about 20 years by the time it dissolved. And you know, the whole invasion of Afghanistan sort of sealed the deal.
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    "The US" didn't do anything. The US is not a monolith with one opinion on everything. The whole "right-left" thing is pretty silly anyway, as there are so many tons of variations on what those actually mean that they virtually have no concrete meaning.
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    read From Yalta to Berlin or watch The Power of Fear to see just what kind of threat the soviet was or wasn't in the 80s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffster View Post
    "The US" didn't do anything. The US is not a monolith with one opinion on everything. The whole "right-left" thing is pretty silly anyway, as there are so many tons of variations on what those actually mean that they virtually have no concrete meaning.
    Yes, I know it's vague and can't really be quantified. I'm just interested in people's opinions.
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