User Tag List

View Poll Results: Should civilians be permitted to own guns?

Voters
134. You may not vote on this poll
  • NO! Guns are EVIL and serve no good purpose.

    21 15.67%
  • YES! Guns are USEFUL and are nice to have when you need them.

    79 58.96%
  • Maybe... I wouldn't own one, but I don't mind if you do.

    30 22.39%
  • What's a gun?

    4 2.99%
First 334142434445 Last

Results 421 to 430 of 527

  1. #421
    Senior Member matmos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    MBTI
    NICE
    Posts
    1,721

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by millerm277 View Post
    @banana...that's true. Now that we've failed, that argument is irrelevant, no? Since there are well over 100 million guns in private hands, that pretty much would ensure an infinite black market for the foreseeable future, regardless of law.
    Absolutely correct. It is an unsolvable problem where discussion for and against makes no difference to the problem.

  2. #422
    Senior Member INTJMom's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    MBTI
    INTJ
    Posts
    5,350

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by bananatrombones View Post
    Absolutely correct. It is an unsolvable problem where discussion for and against makes no difference to the problem.
    Sure it does.
    If the laws changed, all the good guys would turn in their guns. [/sarcasm]

  3. #423
    Lex Parsimoniae Xander's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    MBTI
    INTP
    Enneagram
    9w8
    Socionics
    INTj
    Posts
    4,463

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Pika View Post
    Only someone who is totally ignorant of statistics could make such a statement. Read a little on the subject of statistics, think about it and then report back.

    Also, if you understood the scientific method you would understand that no hypothesis is ever proven, rather, the investigator fails to disprove it. Science is about falsification of theory, not proof.
    Seriously, untwist your knickers...

    Statistics is often skewed by the original intent of the compiler. It CAN be done well but then people often fail to read it correctly.

    As for the "scientific method" I'm afraid I neither mentioned nor commented on that religion and refuse to do so now. I only mentioned the word "logic" and I've found that a nice catch all category for trying to emulate causality.
    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?

  4. #424
    Senior Member ArbiterDewey's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    MBTI
    ISTJ
    Posts
    310

    Default

    Sorry to bump this thread, but (in response to "anything can be proved with logic"):

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    This is the kind of thing people unskilled at reason say every chance they get. You're not the first, maybe the thirty millionth.

    It's patently untrue, because unless your premises are true, your conclusions are invalid.
    If you build your premises on a contradiction, anything is possible to conclude. Circular logic uses this frequently (esp. fundamental Christians concerning the literal meaning of the Bible).
    Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.
    --Isaac Asimov, Salvor Hardin in "Foundation"

    Nothing is worse than active ignorance.
    --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

    Never let your sense of morals get in the way of doing what's right.
    --Isaac Asimov

  5. #425
    Order Now! pure_mercury's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    MBTI
    ESFJ
    Posts
    6,946

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by bananatrombones View Post
    The problem is that it's impossible to keep firearms out of the hands of scumbags.

    If it was, you wouldn't be having this discussion. There would be no issue to discuss.

    All arguments supporting gun use are effectively an admission of failure.

    Precis: if you can stop arseholes getting guns (against the tide of demand) you have won. Guns are fine.

    If not, you have lost.

    At least be honest and say that dead college kids are a price worth paying for your hobby.
    These points are all false. The fact that evil people use guns is no admission of failure at all. Is it a failure of cars that there are thousands of drunk driving accidents each year? Clearly not. Furthermore, it is highly important for a free populace to have access to firearms.
    Who wants to try a bottle of merc's "Extroversion Olive Oil?"

  6. #426
    & Badger, Ratty and Toad Mole's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    18,529

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    ...it is highly important for a free populace to have access to firearms.
    And even more important to be free from guns.

  7. #427
    o edward cullen! Ardea's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    MBTI
    enfp
    Enneagram
    7
    Posts
    729

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    Furthermore, it is highly important for a free populace to have access to firearms.
    Explain plz.
    Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty.

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

  8. #428
    & Badger, Ratty and Toad Mole's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    18,529

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by FemmeUrbane View Post
    Explain plz.
    Sic 'im, sic 'im, sic 'im, you urbane femme, you.

  9. #429
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    MBTI
    type
    Posts
    9,100

    Default

    Yeah, I wish he'd come back, I'm pretty sure 'merc could make FU cry.

  10. #430
    o edward cullen! Ardea's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    MBTI
    enfp
    Enneagram
    7
    Posts
    729

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    Yeah, I wish he'd come back, I'm pretty sure 'merc could make FU cry.
    Make my day! I'm feeling estrogenic!

    And to Victor.
    Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty.

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

Similar Threads

  1. [NF] Quote Thread: Express your feelings or thoughts with a quote
    By Sparrow in forum The NF Idyllic (ENFP, INFP, ENFJ, INFJ)
    Replies: 412
    Last Post: 12-03-2017, 12:20 AM
  2. The Random Movie Quote Thread
    By asynartetic in forum The Fluff Zone
    Replies: 220
    Last Post: 12-02-2017, 10:31 PM
  3. Your self-perception vs the way you are perceived by others?
    By Verona in forum Myers-Briggs and Jungian Cognitive Functions
    Replies: 45
    Last Post: 07-22-2017, 11:13 AM
  4. Random Quote Thread
    By Queen Kat in forum The Bonfire
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 04-12-2011, 09:51 AM
  5. Long - the quotes of lovable larrikin, Nobel physicist Richard Feynman
    By InsatiableCuriosity in forum Science, Technology, and Future Tech
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 08-02-2010, 11:18 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO