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    Quote Originally Posted by runvardh View Post
    As much as it would make it easier to see you crazies down south I have to reitterate the disapproval of your version of politics. Ain't a fan of our country's politics, but we end up laughing harder or shaking our heads more at yourse. Sorry boys and girls, but the people you elect scare us.
    Diebold seems to be the one electing people these days. :steam:

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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    each place seems to have its own flavor of inhumanity.
    definitely. canada is nowhere near perfect.

    but i think the thing that scares us abut the USA is that you can't sit down and have a rational conversation with the typical american about politics. you can use the right words, but it's like they're colorblind to what we're trying to distinguish. (not related to intelligence, but instead worldview)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usehername View Post
    but i think the thing that scares us abut the USA is that you can't sit down and have a rational conversation with the typical american about politics.
    Imagine actually living here, yes you are right about this. I would say that at least 40 percent of people are this lockstep, flag waving, war drum beating, propaganda absorbing mindset you mention and they are the most vocal and then there are about an equal number of people who are intellectually lazy and passive who just want to go on with their lives in a state of ignorant bliss. These types might like to giggle or whine about how stupid Bush is but they don't really want to learn anything about what is really going on around them. They are content to let others do their thinking for them.

    Other countries might have similar problems, but I know that the USA does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf View Post
    This is baseless. Canadians are more like those south of them than they are those east or west of them within their own country, just like we are in the US (I have nothing in common with our east-coast overlords, for instance). They like to claim they're quite different, but in reality there's very little difference. Governmental, mainly. There is a distinct mentality against Americans. In the backwater place I lived, some of the people I met had absolutely never met an American in their lives. We're talking middle-aged (and older) people that had all these preconceived notions about us without having ever met one of us. They think we're all gun-toting neanderthals, too.

    The border is certainly arbitrary, too. Do you even know how it came about? (The western portion, the other part is somewhat, sort-of, sensible.)

    I would never want the east half of your country attached to us. I hate that we're attached to our eastern half, but can't do much about it.


    I lived in Canada for a few months (in addition to a couple months of wandering, in all I've spent more of my life in BC than I've spent in Wyoming, and I lived in WY for a short time), and not only could people not tell I was a foreigner, but they genuinely didn't believe me without proof. I kid you not. Then again, I attract Canadians here, so there might be something weird about me, maybe I seem more clued-in than an average US citizen, but maybe it's just that we're misunderstood and hated by people that do not understand us. We're very different from the way your media claims we are.


    Yeah, but we've gone off in some horrible directions. We've gone the wrong way quite a few times, and we're living with it now.
    well, my apologies then for my assumption.

    do you see what ptgatsby and i referenced when we talked about the worldview, though? maybe i just misinterpreted what you were saying, then. the canadians involved in your business deals would screw everything up. but i don't see why you think that's a bad thing. better to be concerned with people than profit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usehername View Post
    definitely. canada is nowhere near perfect.

    but i think the thing that scares us abut the USA is that you can't sit down and have a rational conversation with the typical american about politics. you can use the right words, but it's like they're colorblind to what we're trying to distinguish. (not related to intelligence, but instead worldview)
    Yeah, but I saw the same thing with Canadians that were sheltered in Canada. They don't know anything of reality, they are so steeped in socialism that relative socialism is all they comprehend. They cannot even understand my political views because they are so completely foreign to their closed-minded worldview.

    But I can't say that Americans are not just as hopeless, a good portion are also totally unable to comprehend my political views.

    However, I did like that Canadians do know the difference between liberal and conservative views, so at least I didn't need to translate too much. Still, there is some bleed-over from the US that screws things up.
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    In the US there is not so much liberalism and conservatism, that is just a show to keep the people busy fighting each other. All we really have here is corporate plutocracy. jmho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usehername View Post
    *We are multicultural. Truly. I'll bet most Americans really cannot fathom this. They might think they can, but if they have not spent more than a few months outside their country in a multicultural country, then I highly doubt it. Absolutely no offense intended, it's just true.
    Multiculturalism is bad. It's veiled racism. As I said, I lived there, and I have seen it from the inside. It doesn't cause as many problems there, but it has nothing to do with whether people see their country as multicultural. Hell, I can't even find good Chinese food in your country. In fact, if you recall, it's blown up in your faces a number of times.

    Let's see... I use chopsticks better than most people that are genetically asian in this country and I cook foods from no less than 8 ethnic origins. Funnier still, I'm as white as you can get, blonde, blue-eyed, and I only know how to cook a couple dishes from one of my genetic ancestral groups.

    *Americans feel a need to be patriotic: the government often sets this up to get the people to follow them. If you don't agree with the government's agenda, you must not be patriotic. These are not necessarily related, but many Americans think so. Canadians don't feel patriotic--we're proud to be Canadian, but it's totally different.
    Totally untrue. Canadians are more radically patriotic than we are. Looking out my window I can locate exactly zero US flags. Looking through my clothing I can locate exactly zero US flags, no stars, no stripes. I did have a red-white-and-blue TH golf shirt that I wore for Canada Day when I was up there for it, though. I'm such a nut. Nobody seemed to notice the subtle poke, even though I was in a sea of red and white. Last time I was up there, from my hotel window I could see at least five Canadian flags. The patriotism is radical there, and the attempt to prove you're different seems to be a constant undercurrent. Like an entire nation of people that have no confidence in who they are.

    *You government basically wants our water. (We own something ridiculous like 25% of the world's freshwater). We also have ridiculous amounts of energy resources that your government already manipulates out of us. We aren't politically strong enough to say no, it's bullied out of us.
    Possible, but I don't hear this openly being said here (I live somewhere where water is very scarce - it's all imported from north of here). Canadians have a lot of conspiracy theories about us, to the point of irrational fear, they think we're a single evil entity that acts in unison. But, yes, I do know that we buy a lot of power from your country, though I know it isn't without people there doing it willingly.

    *this would pretty much be an attempt to take over the world... and I highly doubt a "live and let live" mentality is going to work. People are going to get screwed, and WWIII would happen, is my guess. Which means nukes, of course.
    What do you mean by this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    You neve made it to the first floor.

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    Hrm. Geopolitical position makes this inevitable whether it's done with paper or guns.
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