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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemonday View Post
    Also we walk/cycle more. Cheap gas / urban planning etc is not pedestrian friendly in the US.

    So far Europe is pwning America.

    Like we needed a thread to tell us that. :rolli:
    Yes, well, for all that, I'd have to come visit before I could say for sure that I'd prefer to live there.

    By the way, I work as a production supervisor for a generic drug manufacturer; that's a bottom-rung management job at probably 30 or 40 percent over the median income for the area. We're not wealthy... we're a single-income family, and counting every penny... but we were able to purchase an 1800-square-foot two-story home with three bedrooms and two baths on a quarter-acre in town for the equivalent of about 1.1 years' income. We're looking at moving somewhat upscale and to a larger city, which will provide us with about 3,000 square feet of living area, four bedrooms and two baths on four-tenths of an acre in a nice older neighborhood, and this will cost us about 2.5 years' income.

    How does that compare with where you live?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemonday View Post
    Still? That's crazy. Even more crazy than growing bio fuel crops when half the planet is starving.
    Who can afford to devote their entire business to growing food to give away? Could you?

    You probably buy food every week that you selfishly eat, yourself, rather than ship off to sub-Saharan Africa. How dare you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemonday View Post
    So far Europe is pwning America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oberon View Post
    I suspect the fat thing has a whole lot to do with the prevalence of sugar and high-fructose corn syrup in prepared foods in the US, in addition to the sheer abundance of cheap tasty carbohydrates.

    We are the ones who invented the Double-Stuf Oreo, you know... and we sell them in the one-pound packet.

    I've heard that story before but I don't see the reason why some regulations can't solve the problem if everybody knows it?


    Here is someting to think about.

    In Croatia it is normal that you spend 25-30% of income on food.


    Plus we have something that others find somewhat strange.

    When oil was 140$ per barrel gas/petrol was about 1.3 € for litre, now when oil droped to current values price is 1.1 € for litre.

    1 gallon = 3.78 litres

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antisocial one View Post
    I've heard that story before but I don't see the reason why some regulations can't solve the problem if everybody knows it?

    Because we don't live in an authoritarian state. Healthy food is available here in quantity if you want it. Most people don't bother, for whatever reason.

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    In other words, you could say it is a U.S. "ideal" that a person should be allowed to do things that hurt himself if he wants to do them. Assuming he knows that they're unhealthy.
    You can't spell "justice" without ISTJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cimarron View Post
    In other words, you could say it is a U.S. "ideal" that a person should be allowed to do things that hurt himself
    Have you seen a fatty down a cheeseburger?

    They look awful happy when they are "hurting" themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cimarron View Post
    In other words, you could say it is a U.S. "ideal" that a person should be allowed to do things that hurt himself if he wants to do them. Assuming he knows that they're unhealthy.
    Yes, that's precisely it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    Have you seen a fatty down a cheeseburger?

    They look awful happy when they are "hurting" themselves.
    Better to die happy, as they say? I don't know what to tell you.

    Oh wait, you are talking about people who can't tell whether something is bad for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oberon View Post
    Yes, well, for all that, I'd have to come visit before I could say for sure that I'd prefer to live there.
    [sensorish stuff about housing]

    How does that compare with where you live?
    You got a mouse house, we got a culture and this:



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    Quote Originally Posted by oberon View Post
    Who can afford to devote their entire business to growing food to give away? Could you?
    Have you checked the price of wheat lately?
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