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    It really upsets me that you guys love to lump people together into a certain group. It is really upsetting to say that I would secretly enjoy the death of anyone which seems to be implied from some of the posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darjur View Post
    Gee, you think? I must say I'm very shocked at hearing that and I absolutely can't find a reason as to why they could hate the Semites.
    Semite hating has been a long long tradition, and only worsened by semi recent political activity.

    FFS it's laced throughout the religious texts that the jews are the enemy, the last day won't even come until the trees help you find and kill jews.

    So when people try to suggest it's only because of the Palestine/Israel situation (which it sems you are suggesting) then I would suggest they research Islam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Virus View Post
    It really upsets me that you guys love to lump people together into a certain group. It is really upsetting to say that I would secretly enjoy the death of anyone which seems to be implied from some of the posts.
    Your stance is not practical. If extremist views really were a negligible minority, you might have a point. But they're not. Policy has to be based on probable scenarios, not wishful thinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    Your stance is not practical. If extremist views really were a negligible minority, you might have a point. But they're not. Policy has to be based on probably scenarios, not wishful thinking.
    Your idea is stupid. If a majority of the 1.5 billion Muslims or even 10% or less of that were extremists or shared extremist views, Than the problems you are seeing right now would be a joke.

    Imagine 150 million people pushing for evil, I guess it would be something like invading Iraq, when 50% of the U.S. decided they were a threat to us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Virus View Post
    Your idea is stupid. If a majority of the 1.5 billion Muslims or even 10% or less of that were extremists or shared extremist views, Than the problems you are seeing right now would be a joke.

    Imagine 150 million people pushing for evil, I guess it would be something like invading Iraq, when 50% of the U.S. decided they were a threat to us.
    As a matter of fact, according to polls, a LOT more than 10% of the current Muslim population on Earth share these "extremist" views. But another fact is the Muslim states usually are among the poorest, the most illiterate, ignorant and most under-developed on Earth. And the rich ones are blessed with gigantic inequalities between the ruling class and everyone else.

    So I'd say so far, what we saw is only a powerless anger aimed at us. But the anger is real. Jealousy, frustration, resentment are very powerful emotions for the masses... And things could only get worst so far, since I do not see any hope of change (with the only exception of Iran, where there's a real, interesting intellectual opposition against their current regime, if ever the population had the opportunity to overthrow Ahmadinejad and Khamenei). The next step after the 9/11 is nuclear terrorism. And I fear we shall see it happen during our current lifetime.

    You should never ever underestimate the real weight and influence of Ideologies. That was the harsh lesson of the XXth century, if you want (also check Hannah Arendt's books).

    But change can arise only through education... and women. Yes, women. As usual, they are the clue to everything!

    So we shall see. In fact, I wasn't right: there's hope, but it's kinda tenuous, weak. And nobody can predict the future, especially me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Virus View Post
    Imagine 150 million people pushing for evil, I guess it would be something like invading Iraq, when 50% of the U.S. decided they were a threat to us.
    As I stated elsewhere, the invasion of Iraq was reckless and irresponsible (and in terms of the occupation phase, incompetent), but not evil. Also, the Hussein regime WAS a threat, just not a large enough threat to justify a risky and expensive invasion/occupation with little international support. Finally, a lot more than 150 million Muslims believe that the world should be subjugated under goddamn Shariah law (the majority of those simply think getting there through political violence is either impractical or unIslamic-the proposed means differ, but the ends remain the same).

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    article published September 27, 2002 : Arundhati Roy: A war too far | World news | The Guardian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaizer View Post
    article published September 27, 2002 : Arundhati Roy: A war too far | World news | The Guardian
    Oh, for fuckssake...

    No, the Iraq war was not a capitalist plot, yes, the Afghanistan war was justified, and the Soviet Union WAS intrinsically evil, not a failed but noble experiment. Ms. Roy is a pathetic, anti-American (Oh noes, I've been brainwashed by "The Establishment"!) tool of her radical left-wing ideology. :rolli:

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    What he said was:
    Soviet-style communism failed, not because it was intrinsically evil but because it was flawed. It allowed too few people to usurp too much power: 21st-century market-capitalism, American-style, will fail for the same reasons.

    Sounds right to me.
    Why are they intrinsically evil? Simply because they're not us?
    Then we say that the problem with communism was communism, but the problem with capitalism was capitalists. That seemed to be a way of saying "our problems were because we're 'just humans', or something. Well, of the people who make up the system were the problem, that says a lot about the system.
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