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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Occasionally I would go to a meeting, but it seemed for the first time I was hearing anti-semitism that would not have been out of place in 1930's Germany. Prior to this I would just rationalise and say, well they are not anti-semitic, just anti-Israel.
    Gee, you think? I must say I'm very shocked at hearing that and I absolutely can't find a reason as to why they could hate the Semites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darjur View Post
    Gee, you think? I must say I'm very shocked at hearing that and I absolutely can't find a reason as to why they could hate the Semites.
    And this is precisely what they say.

    They say, we can't be anti-semites 'cause we are semites ourselves.

    This is of course grossly disingenuous.

    It shows no understanding of the history of the word, 'anti-semitic', and how it is used.

    In fact it amounts to a confession of anti-semitism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darjur View Post
    Gee, you think? I must say I'm very shocked at hearing that and I absolutely can't find a reason as to why they could hate the Semites.
    But their propaganda problem is insurmountable.

    Because in the West we measure good and evil by the Shoah or holocaust.

    The Shoah is as close as we have come to absolute evil. And so is the yardstick in the West to measure evil.

    Their history is different and they have different means of measuring good and evil.

    And so their anti-semitism marks them as indelibly evil in the eyes of the West.

    Of course they do know this and try and tailor their propaganda to our ears.

    But thank God we will always baulk at anti-semitism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darjur View Post
    Gee, you think? I must say I'm very shocked at hearing that and I absolutely can't find a reason as to why they could hate the Semites.
    A lot of non-christian groups are Anti-Israel, but not necessarily anti-Jew. Some think Israel is on the level of a fundamental Jewish sect. When you grow up and all you hear from your media and your parents and relatives about how your house just got bulldozed over on the justification that "God said we could live here 2000+ years ago" and you can't really do anything about it, it tends to foster a hatred and bitterness towards the group.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    And Islamo-Fascism is the most dangerous totalitarianism because it is religious.
    globally, it is no worse than christianity and catholicism.

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    Apparently, according to Rupert Murdoch owned news agencies some of the Mumbai terrorists were 'British born Pakistanis'.:steam:
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    Oh our 3rd person reference to ourselves denotes nothing more than we realize we are epic characters on the forum.

    Narcissism, plain and simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    But their propaganda problem is insurmountable.

    Because in the West we measure good and evil by the Shoah or holocaust.

    The Shoah is as close as we have come to absolute evil. And so is the yardstick in the West to measure evil.

    Their history is different and they have different means of measuring good and evil.

    And so their anti-semitism marks them as indelibly evil in the eyes of the West.

    Of course they do know this and try and tailor their propaganda to our ears.

    But thank God we will always baulk at anti-semitism.
    Actually that reply was intended to be sarcastic.

    Anyway, I don't get it why Jews get a name by themselves. It's a fucking genocide like all the others really. It should have been just called a genocide.

    Also, why is Anti-semitism so much fucking worse then other forms of discrimination against over races?

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    But thank God we will always baulk at anti-semitism.
    What does this sentence mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darjur View Post
    Also, why is Anti-semitism so much fucking worse then other forms of discrimination against over races?
    Because it is the age old prototype of prejudice.

    Other forms of prejudice take their forms from anti-semitism.

    Also it is the prototype for paranoid conspiracy theories.

    And always remember that paranoia is psychological preparation to attack.

    Jews are like our canary in the mine - what happens to Jews eventually happens to us.

    And this played out in Mumbai. First they attacked Jews, then they attacked Americans, British and Australians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darjur View Post
    But thank God we will always baulk at anti-semitism.
    What does this sentence mean?
    In the West we know in our bone marrow that anti-semitism is evil, so we are inoculated against propaganda that contains anti-semitism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falcarius View Post
    Apparently, according to Rupert Murdoch owned news agencies some of the Mumbai terrorists were 'British born Pakistanis'.:steam:
    Yes, it is starting to look like Britain is engaged in a Civil War.

    And the next attack on America is likely to come from European Islamists.

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