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    The loss of a child in and of itself would be a personal tragedy, regardless of how s/he died. As for whether I'd be PISSED or not, it would depend on the context.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    Unless there were something like a nuclear attack or land invasion of the United States of America, I'd probably mourn the inconsequential loss of an important American life.
    Yeah, that's about right. For me at least.
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    In this hypothetical are we assuming that my child signed up voluntarily for service? Because if so, then I would be content if he died doing something he wanted to do. Obviously I would miss him terribly, but I would comfort myself in knowing he went out doing something he believed in.
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    Apart from being completely torn up I'd be beyond pissed off.

    War is not necessary. I HATE it.

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    i dont think i could ever value a man-made construct like countries more than my [hypothetical] children

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine View Post
    War is not necessary. I HATE it.
    So, if we were invaded, you think we should just let ourselves be taken over?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffster View Post
    So, if we were invaded, you think we should just let ourselves be taken over?
    if someone invaded us, it would be a [potentially unnecessary] act of war.

    sunshine can correct me if i misinterpreted, but i believe what she meant was that alternate, superior solutions to war exist, meaning it is an unnecessarily detrimental path to take, not that participating in it is, in-and-of-itself, always unnecessary (at that point it really isnt much of a choice)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grayscale View Post
    if someone invaded us, it would be a [potentially unnecessary] act of war.

    sunshine can correct me if i misinterpreted, but i believe what she meant was that alternate, superior solutions to war exist, meaning it is an unnecessarily detrimental path to take, not that participating in it is, in-and-of-itself, always unnecessary (at that point it really isnt much of a choice)
    I tend to respond to what people actually say, rather than go fishing for a meaning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffster View Post
    I tend to respond to what people actually say, rather than go fishing for a meaning.
    well, technically it was what she said, i was just pointing out that there is a difference between the occurrence of war and participating in it. i dont think we need to say that war has consequences that we'd all like to avoid, but it is notable to say that it isn't ever a completely necessary occurrence.

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    if he/she died protecting the country for a just cause, and he/she knew what that cause was, then thats fine.

    but if he/she died for what they believed was a just cause, but later it turned out to be a self serving lie made by the commander, (i.e. he died on a mission to disarm a nuclear weapon factory, but in reality some nuclear weapon producer lobbied congress to get rid of that factory so that company had less competition and got more money to become a monopoly), then I would have to kill the lying perpetrator. its only right.

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