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    Treating people differently, or assuming psychological traits, based on race, is racist, and strategically unsound if equality is the goal. It only perpetuates itself. Not only in "innocent" arenas, but the most dangerous ones as well.
    This would only be true if everyone were already equal in a socioeconomic sense. If an institution already marginalizes one group, and if no one takes any steps to counter this, then everyone is perpetuating the unhealthy system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Liquid_Laser View Post
    This would only be true if everyone were already equal in a socioeconomic sense. If an institution already marginalizes one group, and if no one takes any steps to counter this, then everyone is perpetuating the unhealthy system.
    First of all, you can't "counter" marginalization by more marginalization. Secondly, using the power of government to effect social change is dangerous, and it can be tyrannical. It's simply not what we should be doing in a country that believes in rights rather than power, and in which everyone is supposed to be equal before the law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Liquid_Laser View Post
    This would only be true if everyone were already equal in a socioeconomic sense. If an institution already marginalizes one group, and if no one takes any steps to counter this, then everyone is perpetuating the unhealthy system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    First of all, you can't "counter" marginalization by more marginalization. Secondly, using the power of government to effect social change is dangerous, and it can be tyrannical. It's simply not what we should be doing in a country that believes in rights rather than power, and in which everyone is supposed to be equal before the law.
    You know... as much as I despise affirmative action, I have to say that it has been largely successful in making the workplace an equal arena for all.

    In that limited sense, I think using government power to counter marginalization actually worked.

    I also think the time for quotas (where any remain) is probably past.

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