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    Quote Originally Posted by oberon View Post
    Perhaps, but you don't seem to understand that your sense of what constitutes a "just society" was largely inherited from dead people.
    I'm appreciative that they took a step in the right direction. But I'm willing to go further if I'm not happy with the current position, even if it goes against the intents of the dead dudes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mondo View Post
    However, there is one thing the Democratic Party must remember, money is a powerful incentive in our economy for people to work.
    He should only raise the taxes of those at the top as much as he has to.
    Obama is a very smart man- he will know what he needs to do.
    The goal is to be in less debt, not to create a socialist society.
    I agree that Obama is very intelligent. What worries me is that his values will trump his logic somewhere along the way. That's where things always go wrong.
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not_Me View Post
    If you have no problems with corporations wielding their power to extract concessions from individuals, then why do you object when individuals use the government to level the playing field?
    Because individuals should use their own skills and associations to do it, not the government. That is FORCE, not economic pressure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Not_Me View Post
    I'm appreciative that they took a step in the right direction. But I'm willing to go further if I'm not happy with the current position, even if it goes against the intents of the dead dudes.
    I don't just mean the founders. I mean Plato, Socrates, Augustine, Paul, Marx, Freud... everyone who lent a significant voice to shape what our culture currently views as what is "fair." Our conversation echoes theirs. You speak words that have been spoken before, you give voice to a point of view that has been voiced before. Aren't you interested in that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldanen View Post
    Yes, Obama is indeed for change. But what kind of change? Redistribution of wealth is a common socialist agenda.
    When I was at the dog run the other day, I decided to break my dog's biscuit in half to share it with a less fortunate dog.

    Does this qualify me for the socialist club now? Do I get to use their tree fort? And do I have to bring baked goods to member meetings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iwakar View Post
    When I was at the dog run the other day, I decided to break my dog's biscuit in half to share it with a less fortunate dog.

    Does this qualify me for the socialist club now? Do I get to use their tree fort? And do I have to bring baked goods to member meetings?

    kthxbai

    You didn't point a gun at another dog owner and force him to share biscuits. That's the difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    You didn't point a gun at another dog owner and force him to share biscuits. That's the difference.
    I'm amazed at how many people don't understand the difference between choice and force.
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    You didn't point a gun at another dog owner and force him to share biscuits. That's the difference.
    Yet, we do that if they don't pick up after their dog, I suppose. Because it would affect others.

    (The biscuit thing doesn't work. I'm just trying to get this back on track.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptgatsby View Post
    Yet, we do that if they don't pick up after their dog, I suppose. Because it would affect others.

    (The biscuit thing doesn't work. I'm just trying to get this back on track.)

    Ruining someone else's property is a tort. Of course we punish that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    Ruining someone else's property is a tort. Of course we punish that.
    I was thinking about public property, actually. Parks and the like. *shrug*

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