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    Hahaha the Rasta looking dude killed me!
    My cold, snide, intellectual life is just a veneer, behind which lies the plywood of loneliness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimahn View Post
    Hahaha the Rasta looking dude killed me!
    I liked that "We gettin new textbooks baby..we in there" girl and that guy that threw up "the roc" sign.

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    I'm very happy Obama got elected, for somewhat similar reasons to Blackmail. Bush was generally not very well-regarded in my country, despite our close relations with the US, and he was not a good ambassador for the US. Who the US elects does matter to the rest of the world.
    ...so much smoke pouring out of each chromosome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    If your dream is to Europeanize the world, mine is to Americanize it. Individuals are more controlled by the government in Europe.
    Oddly enough we want to have our cake and eat it too. And already we are half and half. Here, our individuals are only half controlled and half free.

    We are like centaurs with the body of an American Pinto and the head of a British Bulldog.

    We run like hell, and never let go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    If your dream is to Europeanize the world, mine is to Americanize it. Individuals are more controlled by the government in Europe.
    That's a joke right ?
    I mean, we don't even have a central government in Europe.
    What we do have is McDonalds at every street corner. But you're right. We need more America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vince View Post
    That's a joke right ?
    I mean, we don't even have a central government in Europe.
    What we do have is McDonalds at every street corner. But you're right. We need more America.
    You need more America ideals. Everyone already has American money and restaurants and music and movies.
    Who wants to try a bottle of merc's "Extroversion Olive Oil?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by vince View Post
    That's a joke right ?
    I mean, we don't even have a central government in Europe.
    The governments of individual European states are highly centralized (for the most part). Also, the European Union is essentially an unaccountable bureaucracy that extensively impacts virtually every aspect of the daily life of the poor saps under its influence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    It is moderate Islam that will destroy the Militant Islamic Jihad.

    Islamic Jihad is an ideology that can't be destroyed with bombs - you can't kill an idea.

    And our role, in the long term, is to fully support moderate Islam.

    Militant Islamic Jihad is a creation of the modern world, in fact the first part of the 20th Century.

    And if moderate Islam wants to join the modern world, they will first need to defeat Militant Islamic Jihad.

    Essentially we are facing a civil war within Islam, so it is important we support the right side.
    Heard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travo7 View Post
    Heard.
    No, it is LIBERAL interpretations of Islam that are needed; most so-called moderates are either irreligious or are in fact Islamists that pursue their agenda through peaceful, democratic means. You can't reform global Islam if you are unwilling or unable to accurately diagnose the problem (that said, nuking the collective Muslim world is just psychotic idiocy).

    And Victor;

    1.) Militant Islam cannot compare to the former Communist threat.

    2.) The Australian Labor party (along with other "third way" social democrats)is currently moderate in terms of policy, but the principles and ideas utilized to justify policies have longterm implications and consequences beyond the short-term impact of the policies themselves (except for judicial and "entitlement" policies, which last for decades or longer). If they became an explicitly social-liberal party (and therefore made clear that liberal principles have inherent priority over socialist principles), I would have no problem with them.

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