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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    One would have to be doing that to believe that most Americans were blissfully unaware of what the world thought of the Bush policies.
    It was worse. Many Americans don't even give a shit what other countries think of the USA. "The West is the best. Get here and we'll do the rest !" "We're not the problem. We're the solution" - McCain.
    "The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them that they are being attacked and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
    Reichsfuhrer Herman Goering at the Nuremburg trials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuranes View Post
    It was worse. Many Americans don't even give a shit what other countries think of the USA. "The West is the best. Get here and we'll do the rest !" "We're not the problem. We're the solution" - McCain.
    Useless idealism. No society has ever succeeded with the stance of "The rest of the world is better than us."

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuranes View Post
    It was worse. Many Americans don't even give a shit what other countries think of the USA. "The West is the best. Get here and we'll do the rest !" "We're not the problem. We're the solution" - McCain.
    *shudders*

    You can't police the world, or it's thoughts or feelings...

    I hate to be seen as the arrogant prick at the party who beleives that either everyone loves him or they can kiss his ass
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    Useless idealism. No society has ever succeeded with the stance of "The rest of the world is better than us."
    I'm criticizing doing the exact opposite. Excessive pride goes before a fall.
    "The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them that they are being attacked and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
    Reichsfuhrer Herman Goering at the Nuremburg trials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuranes View Post
    I'm criticizing doing the exact opposite. Excessive pride goes before a fall.
    It's the questioning of the society itself which goes before the fall. See: Rome.

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    However, there's never anything bad to say about a realistic view on things...
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    However, there's never anything bad to say about a realistic view on things...
    I don't suppose you're talking about Obama's view. That's a dark path.

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    no- I can come up with my own views of the world. I'm not stupid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    It's the questioning of the society itself which goes before the fall.
    I'm so glad to see the end of the "We'll tell you what's good for you" crowd being in control.

    * pops another champagne cork *
    "The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them that they are being attacked and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
    Reichsfuhrer Herman Goering at the Nuremburg trials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    no- I can come up with my own views of the world. I'm not stupid
    So you've "come up" with a view of the world, instead of observing it? This is very common, don't feel too ashamed.

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