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    Default Secretary agriculture, warnings about communism- PLEASE LOOK

    Here is a excerpt of a speech from Ezra Taft Benson I think is terribly relevant to what we face today. He warns of the dangers of communism, and creeping socialism. He warns about how those who want to implement it wish to do so by inflicting it upon us in ways that we wont even be spurred to fight back. The most striking part is in the last 1/4th of the speech in which he reveals;
    http://www.awakeandarise.org/media/b...onsability.mp3

    I have talked face to face with the godless communist leaders. It may surprise you to learn that I was host to Mr. Kruschev for a half day when he visited the United States, not that I’m proud of it. I opposed his coming then, and I still feel it was a mistake to welcome this atheistic murderer as a state visitor.

    But, according to President Eisenhower, Kruschev had expressed a desire to learn something of American Agriculture — and after seeing Russian agriculture I can understand why.

    As we talked face to face, he indicated that my grandchildren would live under communism. After assuring him that I expected to do all in my power to assure that his and all other grandchildren will live under freedom he arrogantly declared in substance:

    You Americans are so gullible. No, you won’t accept communism outright, but we’ll keep feeding you small doses of socialism until you’ll finally wake up and find you already have communism. We won’t have to fight you. We’ll so weaken your economy until you’ll fall like overripe fruit into our hands!

    And more from this wise man.

    YouTube - Treason of US Senators, New Federal Charter (1960's New Worl - pay close attention to the last half of this one
    YouTube - "Socialist, Communist Conspiracy" Warning of Eisenhower's Se
    Dwight D. Eisenhower somehow chose and kept a fiery anti-Socialist and anti-Communist US Patriot as a Secretary of Agriculture, Ezra Taft Benson. Highly controversial for his opposing government intrusion into the lives of American's (and into the economies of farmers, masquerading as their benefactor), Secretary Benson enraged the establishment socialists and communists. This clip is perhaps the most explosive and powerful testimony of treason from within that has ever been uttered at the Cabinet level of Government. This excerpt is from a speech given in 1965, four years after leaving the White House at the end of Eisenhower's term. Listen to the long list of treasonous acts done by government. The murder, the brutality, such as installing Castro, the Bloodbath upon the people of Katanga by the UN with US Backing. The list goes on and on, and will never see the light of day in a government propaganda textbook Just one of those things Secretary Benson mentions can be seen here, the real story of Katanga, and the UN butchery of the free people there: Katanga - US, UN, and Communist Revolutionary Tactics in Africa This video about will make the lover of freedom, liberty, and human dignity weep. This is history that will never find itself into your damned government textbook.

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    You really need to stay away from these fringe websites full of conspiracy theories.

    Bottom line is that by far, of the four candidates, Sarah Palin's redistribution of oil income in a rationing of 3,000 dollars for each Alaskan citizen is the closest thing any of the four candidates have done to Marxism.

    That is just a fact that no fringe conspiracy website can refute.

    Its much better, like John Stewart says, if people just came straight out and say they want to spread this false idea of socialism so they can have an edge in the election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Modern Nomad View Post
    Its much better, like John Stewart says, if people just came straight out and say they want to spread this false idea of socialism so they can have an edge in the election.
    If you get your news from comedy central, I almost don't even have the heart to comment on anything else you've said.


    I don't know what fringe websites you're talking about. Maybe you can give me some links because I don't visit those places to figure out history or how it is relevant to the present. Suffice to say, I rely on radio a lot.

    For those who know diddly squat about history, you know the 60's was a period of time when this country had to take a great stand against the likes of communism and socialism. It was a great threat to our way of life then, and it still is. War is a conspiracy, foreign relations is a conspiracy, all instructed by people with their own intentions. Always has been, always will be. I'm only telling you what a very competent cabinet member from that time period said about the dangers of such things. It was relevant then, and it's relevant now. Just because one generation didn't have to live through the worst of it doesn't mean it's not reality for Pete's sake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Risen View Post
    It was a great threat to our way of life then, and it still is.
    cus the soviet union and china are now quasi or hyper capitalist.

    ohhh those cubans. yeah, the cubans are gonna infiltrate and bring down the fabric of society.

    no wait. because its all i know. because i don't believe things change. there's a war on commodity prices than iraq's communism eh.

    there's no point in pre-emptive striking a debate later on, if it becomes a concern which is a pretty small possibility. revive this thread in about 2 years. but while we're at it, lets talk about time travel too. why not pre-empt a debate that will happen in 100 years. lolz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Modern Nomad View Post
    cus the soviet union and china are now quasi or hyper capitalist.

    ohhh those cubans. yeah, the cubans are gonna infiltrate and bring down the fabric of society.

    no wait. because its all i know. because i don't believe things change. there's a war on commodity prices than iraq's communism eh.

    there's no point in pre-emptive striking a debate later on, if it becomes a concern which is a pretty small possibility. revive this thread in about 2 years. but while we're at it, lets talk about time travel too. why not pre-empt a debate that will happen in 100 years. lolz
    Take a chill pill dude, what you're saying is barely even coherent. :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Risen View Post
    Take a chill pill dude, what you're saying is barely even coherent. :/
    and i u want to vote a certain way. go ahead. but these sensationalist fringe conspiracy beliefs are just getting tiring!

    especially because they have no merit at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Modern Nomad View Post
    and i u want to vote a certain way. go ahead. but these sensationalist fringe conspiracy beliefs are just getting tiring!

    especially because they have no merit at all.
    You are certainly entitled to your opinion. True history and the future will alway reveal what is correct. I can only hope that the TINY doses of information I manage to spread here take root so people look into it more and develop and understanding of it.

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    Thank you, Risen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Risen View Post
    True history and the future will alway reveal what is correct.
    That's not necessarily true. Most people still think the Great Depression was caused by the stock market crash rather than the Federal Reserve monetary policy.
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    That's not necessarily true. Most people still think the Great Depression was caused by the stock market crash rather than the Federal Reserve monetary policy.
    Well, yea. Depends how the history is portrayed in retrospect. The objective truth will always be there. Just not everybody will always see it.

    Oh, and you could also blame the expansion of worker unions within the depression for the prolonged duration of it.

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