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    Quote Originally Posted by Risen View Post
    Just how do Mccain supporters scare you? Is it because we hang effigy's of Palin in our yards, can't give a single reason for why we support our candidate besides popularity, because we tear down all the Mccain signs we can find, because we don't give a darn about hearing the opinions of people who disagree with us, because we start fights in order to show our brazen support, because some of us promise to riot in the streets if our candidate isn't elected, because some of us actually WANT socialism, or is it because the media supports our candidate so much and all the ones who don't get ex-listed by him? Yea you're right, Mccain supporters are scary as hell...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
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    If you two represent examples of McCain supporters here then you are really not helping very much in representing them in a positive light It was meant to be joking and innocuous and not an accusing comment towards all McCain supporters, but to take that one point I made and approach and attack it quite rudely and sardonically is a poor impression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Risen View Post
    Just how do Mccain supporters scare you? Is it because we hang effigy's of Palin in our yards,
    How about McCain supporters covering a dead bear cub with Obama signs?
    Or planning an attack on the man's life?

    Oh, right... they're "fringe."

    can't give a single reason for why we support our candidate besides popularity,
    I've heard few reasons to support McCain here other than "he's not Obama." And Obama supporters here, at this forum (including me) have given plenty of reasons. Plenty. You are full of it.

    because we tear down all the Mccain signs we can find,
    Happens on both sides, to be sure. And Ivy's child was spat at for wearing an Obama sticker.


    because we don't give a darn about hearing the opinions of people who disagree with us,
    Clearly, Obama supporters are alone on this. McCain supporters are ALL ABOUT hearing others' opinions.



    And so forth.

    I'm not afraid of most McCain supporters, but I am disgusted by this bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eileen View Post
    How about McCain supporters covering a dead bear cub with Obama signs?
    Or planning an attack on the man's life?

    Oh, right... they're "fringe."



    I've heard few reasons to support McCain here other than "he's not Obama." And Obama supporters here, at this forum (including me) have given plenty of reasons. Plenty. You are full of it.



    Happens on both sides, to be sure. And Ivy's child was spat at for wearing an Obama sticker.




    Clearly, Obama supporters are alone on this. McCain supporters are ALL ABOUT hearing others' opinions.



    And so forth.

    I'm not afraid of most McCain supporters, but I am disgusted by this bullshit.
    So I take it you'll be one of the people rioting on the streets if Obama is not elected?

    I've heard my fair share of people who say they'll vote for Obama because he's not a republican and he's not Bush (both on this forum and in real life). The bear cub thing was from a group of idiots who weren't doing it to make a political statement, they were just being idiots.

    Technically I support Palin and Mccain on the basis that they will not be raising our taxes, spending like buffoons, and further damaging the economy with their economic policies, or so rapidly leading us into socialism and NWO bullshit. Although, I do believe BOTH candidates will eventually take us further toward socialism or fascism, Obama's outright support for the extremes and decidedly anti conservative stance on issues would lead me to lean heavily on the Mccain side. For me, it is more a matter of Obama being a greater repulsive force than Mccain being a good attractive force. Add to that the the largest factor in my supporting Mccain is the balance between the parties in the white house that offers a greater chance for the wakeful American citizens to exercise their influence over government in the future and eventually tend to the corruption that is destroying us. With the vast democrat majority we may be facing, citizens on both sides of the isle stand to lose quite a few rights through the loss of integrity in our constitutional system, and our influence over the government will be snuffed out by the imbalance of power that would exist. Having such an imbalance wouldn't usually be so dangerous, but these are dangerous times we're entering.

    Like I said, I support Palin and Mccain mostly because they're the lesser of two evils, which saddens me indeed. However, at least I wont be disappointed and disillusioned when either candidate pushes forward in their agendas. I honestly only choose to criticize some Obama supporters because they can't see through his policies or don't see anything besides the hype that surrounds him. I liken it to a woman who consistently chooses boyfriends who beat on her and treat her like crap. She never realizes at the time how bad the boyfriends are, but all their good friends will tell her so to no avail. Likewise, I think theres a good portion of Obama supporters who just don't realize what it is they're in love with. For the ones who really are in the know and realize who he is, but still support him are in my opinion not as scary as the former groups.

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    I just saw Biden speak at my school a few hours ago. There were a bunch of McCain supporters hanging around behind the rally, and one of them had a sign that said, "Spread the Butter, not the Wealth." My friend's like, "Well I need money to buy butter." And I'm like, "Yeah, we ain't got no cows for churnin', son." And so, yeah, we didn't know how to make sense of that zinger.

    I'm pissed cos I forgot to take my mace off my keychain and so they had to confiscate it . I need the wealth for butter and more mace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by placebo View Post
    If you two represent examples of McCain supporters here then you are really not helping very much in representing them in a positive light It was meant to be joking and innocuous and not an accusing comment towards all McCain supporters, but to take that one point I made and approach and attack it quite rudely and sardonically is a poor impression.
    Well it was meant in a jovial manner, but it's not as if I'm worried I'm going to offend Obama-ites.

    I'm just as personally offended as you must be when I hear statements like "Obama isn't a socialist." Incorrectness always hits me where it hurts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eileen View Post
    I'm not afraid of most McCain supporters, but I am disgusted by this bullshit.
    Likewise regarding bullshit from some of the Obama supporters. What happened to Ivy and Noahfence's child is inexcusable, but that does not mean that particular McCain supporter should be presented as remotely typical of McCain supporters in general. My own brother-in-law is afraid to put up a McCain/Palin sign in his neighborhood because some people there have raised the possibility of rioting (probably not seriously, but he wasn't about to risk the welfare of my nieces and nephewsw on that assumption) in the event that Obama loses. As for people who would not vote for Obama because they erroneously believe he is a Muslim, I'm pretty sure they're balanced out by the people who would not vote for McCain because they think a Republican administration orchestrated 9/11 or invaded Iraq in order to enrich Halliburton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZiL View Post
    My friend's like, "Well I need money to buy butter."
    You also need an expanding economy so that anybody will be able to buy butter in fifteen years. I think Obama's motivations were made apparent when he was asked during a primary debate why he wanted to drastically raise the capital gains tax (he later lowered the proposed tax increases) when past experience has shown and economist's generally agreed that doing so would result in less government revenue, and instead of challenging that statement, he talked about raising capital gains taxes in order to make things more fair and equitable, regardless of the negative effects on government revenues and the overall economy. Obama's rhetoric indicates a somewhat zero-sum view of economic prosperity, one that stunts economic growth and poisons the electoral process with assumptions of class warfare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Risen View Post
    So I take it you'll be one of the people rioting on the streets if Obama is not elected?
    I certainly will not be violent, but I will be pissed. I will also be highly suspicious, given the projections right now.

    I've heard my fair share of people who say they'll vote for Obama because he's not a republican and he's not Bush (both on this forum and in real life).
    That's fine. I don't agree with that kind of voting. Still--it doesn't change the fact that PLENTY of McCain supporters are this way too. You made your retarded list of traits of an Obama supporter as if stupid voting only happens on one side.

    The bear cub thing was from a group of idiots who weren't doing it to make a political statement, they were just being idiots.
    Well, I would say that the people who made the effigy of Palin are "just being idiots" as well, but you made the choice to present them as the typical Obama supporter. That's bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lowtech redneck View Post
    Likewise regarding bullshit from some of the Obama supporters.
    I want to go on the record to say that I am anti-bullshit. I laughed when I read about the guy in my town who rigged up an electric pet fence thing to his McCain sign so that it wouldn't get tampered with (and a kid was zapped for it--which was well deserved, imo).

    What happened to Ivy and Noahfence's child is inexcusable, but that does not mean that particular McCain supporter should be presented as remotely typical of McCain supporters in general.
    Of course not. I don't believe that. Neither do I believe that the typical Obama supporter is violent.
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