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    Quote Originally Posted by ptgatsby View Post
    This is understandable. Most economists are Keynesian. That doesn't mean that most economists are correct. I think Keynesian economic philosophy is a steaming pile of horse shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Related Fun Fact: 23% of Texans polled believe that Obama is a Muslim.

    I've heard a myriad of compelling arguments against it, but I still believe there should be some sort of test required to obtain voting rights.

    On a strictly personal level, I sort of wish that the citizens of the nation-state of Texas would stop devoting themselves to perpetuating the stereotypes Americans have to confront when venturing into any other nation on the planet.


    Philosemitism: 23 percent of Germans believe US government behind 9/11


    Ignorance goes both ways. I don't take that 23% to represent all Germans, so anyone who takes 23% of Texans (who are only 8% of Americans) to represent all of us is either stupid or a bigot or both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    Philosemitism: 23 percent of Germans believe US government behind 9/11


    Ignorance goes both ways. I don't take that 23% to represent all Germans, so anyone who takes 23% of Texans (who are only 8% of Americans) to represent all of us is either stupid or a bigot or both.
    Believing in such a conspiracy theory isn't ignorance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmileyMan View Post
    Believing in such a conspiracy theory isn't ignorance.
    For many of those conspiracy theories, it is. Otherwise, its varying combinations of stupidity, extreme paranoia, and a retarded amount of anti-Americanism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    Philosemitism: 23 percent of Germans believe US government behind 9/11


    Ignorance goes both ways. I don't take that 23% to represent all Germans, so anyone who takes 23% of Texans (who are only 8% of Americans) to represent all of us is either stupid or a bigot or both.
    Good answer.

    Now that we have noticed that a significant amount of either americans or europeans are stupid, hateful or ignorant, what do we do?

    You know, both kinds of stupidity don't cancel each other, they rather add up. :rolli:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmail! View Post
    Good answer.

    Now that we have noticed that a significant amount of either americans or europeans are stupid, hateful or ignorant, what do we do?

    You know, both kinds of stupidity don't cancel each other, they rather add up. :rolli:

    Personally, I'd hope that it would remind the higher-functioning and less-biased of us to use social pressure to get through to the ones who would rather believe the worst about other people than accept the stupid and easy stereotypes. There will always be ignorant people, but that doesn't mean everyone's arguments need be ignorant. The average American should learn more about the 95% or so of the world that is not the USA, and the average non-American should interact more with the United States and look at history to understand better our politics and appreciate all the fantastic things we've done in the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    Personally, I'd hope that it would remind the higher-functioning and less-biased of us to use social pressure to get through to the ones who would rather believe the worst about other people than accept the stupid and easy stereotypes. There will always be ignorant people, but that doesn't mean everyone's arguments need be ignorant. The average American should learn more about the 95% or so of the world that is not the USA, and the average non-American should interact more with the United States and look at history to understand better our politics and appreciate all the fantastic things we've done in the world.
    You mean things like inventing rape and slavery?
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    Because McCain supporters scare the hell out of me, I don't get anything from Palin, and judging from the way they speak, I'm just a lot more comfortable with what Obama says. And I'm in Canada--Canadians support Obama

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    Quote Originally Posted by placebo View Post
    Because McCain supporters scare the hell out of me, I don't get anything from Palin, and judging from the way they speak, I'm just a lot more comfortable with what Obama says. And I'm in Canada--Canadians support Obama
    Just how do Mccain supporters scare you? Is it because we hang effigy's of Palin in our yards, can't give a single reason for why we support our candidate besides popularity, because we tear down all the Mccain signs we can find, because we don't give a darn about hearing the opinions of people who disagree with us, because we start fights in order to show our brazen support, because some of us promise to riot in the streets if our candidate isn't elected, because some of us actually WANT socialism, or is it because the media supports our candidate so much and all the ones who don't get ex-listed by him? Yea you're right, Mccain supporters are scary as hell...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Risen View Post
    Just how do Mccain supporters scare you? Is it because we hang effigy's of Palin in our yards, can't give a single reason for why we support our candidate besides popularity, because we tear down all the Mccain signs we can find, because we don't give a darn about hearing the opinions of people who disagree with us, because we start fights in order to show our brazen support, because some of us promise to riot in the streets if our candidate isn't elected, because some of us actually WANT socialism, or is it because the media supports our candidate so much and all the ones who don't get ex-listed by him? Yea you're right, Mccain supporters are scary as hell...
    Okay, I don't mean ALL supporters, mainly the ones who are 'afraid' of Obama because they think he is a Muslim, Arab, or terrorist or even just because he is black. I find there's a lot more to be scared of in ignorant people like this because there are a sufficient amount. How big a deal is the hanging Palin effigy anyway though? It was part of their Halloween decorations and wasn't considered a hate crime. At the same time a hung effigy of Obama covered in blood for halloween is barely noted in the media? That's probably because he was black and that would recall all the past lynchings in the US.

    I'm glad that Obama is a popular choice (maybe it's for a good reason), but I don't see that because sometimes I hear there's a very real chance McCain can become president. I never said every Obama supporter isn't a ignorant maniac, but seeing what I've seen from a few McCain supporters is enough for me to be scared of some of them.

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