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    Quote Originally Posted by Risen View Post
    In terms of the credibility of economists, I'd have to state that the economists I mostly listen to and whose opinions I respect are the economists who were able to predict the crisis that we're in now, unlike the majority of other economists who had their heads in the sand and said everything was all lolipops and gumdrops.
    well do you have names? because in general, if they are pure academics, then departmental ranking matters the most for me. if they are private sector economists, i.e. an economist for JP Morgan, then they would have different motivations in some cases.

    Either way, a study does not exist on the effect of levels of capital gains taxes on economic growth. I have yet to see one. Ideally, I think everyone should have a capital gains tax, except for me. =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilen View Post
    Cause if you don't support Obama YOU A RACIST
    A while back I was reading this line, and someone made a joke:

    "Cause if you don't support McCain YOU ARE A MARXIST".

    It was... less amusing when I read similar concepts here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptgatsby View Post
    I met austan goolsbee before. He does very good research on the new economy regarding the digital era. cool fellow. dunno why he is at u of chicago. he should be at berkeley or MIT if he wants to do more research in the effects of the new economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antisocial one View Post
    I know he didn't, but I was pointing at the fact that I agree with him.

    You want to tell me that all Americans know that popularity of McCain in Europe is below 15% ? I am talking about all Americans not just about people on this forum.
    To tell you the truth, I am surprised and find it difficult to believe that McCain has more than 3% support in Europe. Such is my perspective as a Citizen of the Internet.

    Okay, just making sure we were talking about the same thing. It's a little off-topic, so I'll let it drop here, though personally this is the kind of stuff I think is really interesting about politics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ptgatsby View Post
    A while back I was reading this line, and someone made a joke:

    "Cause if you don't support McCain YOU ARE A MARXIST".

    It was... less amusing when I read similar concepts here.
    That was very uninteresting.
    Thank you for sharing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowtech redneck View Post
    :rolli:

    The "far right" in Europe usually advocates centralized political systems and statist economic policies. They are often (unsurprisingly) extremely anti-American as well. The only real similarity I can perceive is that the "far right" is less likely than socialist elements to view religiosity and patriotism as moral and intellectual failings. The segments of Europe most likely to support Republicans in general are probably certain factions of the Liberal/Free Democrat and Christian Democrat/People's parties (not necessarily for the same reasons).
    Well, our own far right (the FN -Front National-, as well as the MNR and the MPF) never advocated "statist" economic policies or extreme centralization. It's rather the opposite, since their programs are closer to what they call "social darwinism". They want to get rid of the "parasites" who live on the behalf of the welfare state (and that means mostly poor immigrant families), they want that only the economically fittest survive.
    What they usually advocate is rather a combination of extremely nationalistic values (authority, machism, death penalty, strong army), bigoted morality (Church, traditional family, anti-gay and anti-immigrant laws), and neoliberalism (no minimal wages, complete deregulation of the markets). What they want to support financially are only white christian traditional families with lot of children, and some sections of agriculture (-> Blood and Earth, "Blut und Boden") .

    So far, they are the only ones to officially support MacCain. Every other significant parties we have (Green, Social-democrats, Centrists, Liberals, Conservatives) support Obama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EffEmDoubleyou View Post
    I agree...but there is something strange about expecting your opinion to carry weight. If people with interests different from your own were urging you to make a certain decision, wouldn't you at the very least be wary of the motivations behind that opinion? I mean, most of the people voicing the opinions are from countries considered allies, but that doesn't mean that our interests are completely aligned.
    As far as I remember, I've never read here an European saying that you should vote for Obama.

    I'm just showing you facts that you might find interesting (or not). I did not show them to influence any of you, since these facts can be interpreted in any way you like.

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    I'm not American and I do not vote in the US. But since the US is not an "ordinary country" for us, both because of its power and its close cultural ties (with France, at least), it's normal for us to be very interested to see what happens here.
    The american voters carry a huge responsibility, since any significant change within the US will immediately affect the entire world. And I think the Americans should more and more be aware of that.

    So yes, we are very interested. Is that wrong?
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    Related Fun Fact: 23% of Texans polled believe that Obama is a Muslim.

    I've heard a myriad of compelling arguments against it, but I still believe there should be some sort of test required to obtain voting rights.

    On a strictly personal level, I sort of wish that the citizens of the nation-state of Texas would stop devoting themselves to perpetuating the stereotypes Americans have to confront when venturing into any other nation on the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilen View Post
    Cause if you don't support Obama YOU A RACIST
    You're kidding, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enyo View Post
    You're kidding, right?
    Well it's pretty obvious.

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