What is truth (split from post poll)

[SolitaryWalker]

Originally Posted by meshou

When S.W. expresses the general sentiment.

"I don't get it."

What is the subject of the sentence?

Here. Let me highlight it for you:

"I don't get it."

Yep.

There is objective truth. So when I say that I dont get it, this usually implies that the entity has to be absurd, otherwise I probably would not be in the position where I don't get it.

[outmywindow]

Originally Posted by SolitaryWalker

There is objective truth. So when I say that I dont get it, this usually implies that the entity has to be absurd, otherwise I probably would not be in the position where I don't get it.

Ah yes, I'd forgotten that Seawolf is an all-knowing, supremely intelligent being. Obviously, that which Seawolf does not comprehend must be universally incomprehensible. Silly me! Thanks for the reminder!

[SolitaryWalker]

Originally Posted by outmywindow

Ah yes, I'd forgotten that Seawolf is an all-knowing, supremely intelligent being. Obviously, that which Seawolf does not comprehend must be universally incomprehensible. Silly me! Thanks for the reminder!

All that I am saying is that when I say 'I dont get it'...its just a euphemism... for 'thats absurd'... but of course this ignores the possibility that I may have fallen short of the truth which I do not deny could well be the case.

[meshou]

You appear to be under the impression there is anything which isn't absurd. That's cute.

[SolitaryWalker]

Originally Posted by meshou

You appear to be under the impression there is anything which isn't absurd. That's cute.

I believe in objective truth, by this alone I've confessed that I think that there is something that is not absurd.

[meshou]

Originally Posted by SolitaryWalker

I believe in objective truth, by this alone I've confessed that I think that there is something that is not absurd.

Don't worry, you'll grow out of it.

[SolitaryWalker]

Originally Posted by meshou

Don't worry, you'll grow out of it.

Grow out of a belief in objective truth?

[meshou]

Absolutely. It's pretty damn naive.

[SolitaryWalker]

Originally Posted by meshou

Absolutely. It's pretty damn naive.

Ok, if you say that you know that there is a computer screen in front of you, and if a normal person was to walk in, wouldnt he be compelled to agree with you if you said that you knew that there is a computer screen in front of you?

[meshou]

Originally Posted by SolitaryWalker

Ok, if you say that you know that there is a computer screen in front of you, and if a normal person was to walk in, wouldnt he be compelled to agree with you if you said that you knew that there is a computer screen in front of you?

Sure. But that's not a "truth," that's just a world outside your own head.

I believe in a world outside of myself. I do not believe "truth," inherent meaning, exists as anything but an interaction between an observer and the world. Therefore, I believe truth can only be subjective. There are no inherent meanings, everything is absurd.

I also do not believe events necessarily happen in a linear, inherently sensical way. I think we tend to edit out whatever doesn't make sense, and so are not creatures very well made to be totally in touch with reality, let alone objective truth.

Your need for objective truth is more a product of your need for the world to make sense than it is a reflection on reality. The world is absurd, and you doubly so.