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    I’m not an atheist/agnostic because daddy didn’t hug me enough, I am because I determined the whole thing was bullshit at a very early age.

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    So, what if both of your parents were simply atheist, and you were raised without religion, and you were never religious at any point in your life?
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    Quote Originally Posted by asynartetic View Post
    I’m not an atheist/agnostic because daddy didn’t hug me enough, I am because I determined the whole thing was bullshit at a very early age.
    How many times a week did your daddy hug you?
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    I had a defective father. Our relationship as of now has de facto been severed. I had many years of atheism, then weak faith followed by converting to another religion over and over again within a matter of weeks, followed by strong faith ONLY after suffering enormous hardship and turning to God for help when I had no one else to turn to. Now I'm in weak faith at times and strong faith at times, maintain a secularist world view, and suffer from the urge to look up astrology and date casually with classmates due to gender segregation with MOST family friends (but for those I'm not separated from, I hardly see them). I don't attend Friday prayer service, but will start attending religious readings ever friday (in english, though most in our group are in Turkish, since my turkish is bad, especially with ADHD). But i can see how this would work. But I would also say not to discredit the idea of turning to religion WHEN one doesn't have a father figure, but everyone's different. Though usually, i think atheists are the outliers from the norms of society, such as people from broken homes, as suggested. I even believe my experience led me away from religion due to anomie, as sociologists put it (normlessness) I'd also like to add that not having a father figure to explain sex from an Islamic perspective when i went through puberty at age 10 or 11, and only getting advised when i was deep into stalking, sexual perversion, and porn addiction led to my faithlessness.

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    I'm no longer an atheist because I know I'm God, but nonetheless I feel entitled to speak on this subject, having been a strong atheist for a number of years (yes, God can disbelieve in Himself). First of all, the topic title is ridiculous. Atheism is not a faith. Atheism and faith are unrelated to each other. Second of all, I disagree with the premise that a particular type of childhood leads to a particular type of adulthood. A bad father could just as easily lead to someone who rejects God as it could to someone who turns to God as a much-needed replacement--or it could lead to someone who is simply indifferent to God, as I was for many years and still am. Did I have a bad father? Yes. Did that make me an atheist? No. What made me an atheist was the lack of a realistic God being presented to me for consideration.
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    Funny. I was raised as an atheist, in a household where religion was mocked but everything was sacrificed at the Altar of Science instead.

    I also went to Catholic school. Both organised religion and the worship of science shared one thing in my youth - disrespect for others and their free will.

    I ultimately chose a form of spirituality that made respect for others and respect for free will in perfect balance, its core.
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    I ask myself, who is the father of the universe which we have known since 1998 is accelerating away from itself at every point in every direction?

    Did the God of the desert, Allah, create the universe, or did the three headed God, the Trinity, create the universe, or perhaps it was Ganesh, the God with the head of an elephant? All seem improbable to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isk Stark View Post
    Strong, anti-, militant, etc. all describing the same or similar thing.



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    To reference my earlier post:

    Right-Hand Path

    The Right-Hand Path is commonly thought to refer to magical or religious groups which adhere to a certain set of characteristics:

    • They divide the concepts of mind, body and spirit into three separate, albeit interrelated, entities.[2]


    • They adhere to a specific moral code and a belief in some form of judgement, such as karma or the Threefold Law.[2]



    The occultists Dion Fortune[3] and William G. Gray[4] consider non-magical Abrahamic religions to be RHP.


    Left-Hand Path

    The historian Dave Evans studied self-professed followers of the Left-Hand Path in the early 21st century, making several observations about their practices:
    • They often reject societal convention and the status quo, which some suggest is in a search for spiritual freedom. As a part of this, LHP followers embrace magical techniques that would traditionally be viewed as taboo, for instance using sex magic or embracing Satanic imagery.[1]:197 As Mogg Morgan wrote, the "breaking of taboos makes magic more potent and can lead to reintegration and liberation, [for example] the eating of meat in a vegetarian community can have the same liberating effect as anal intercourse in a sexually inhibited straight society."[5]


    • They often question religious or moral dogma, instead adhering to forms of personal anarchism.[1]:198


    • They often embrace sexuality and incorporate it into magical ritual.[1]:205
    Obviously, left-hand is superior.

    I fit your fatherless model, sure, but I left the Jehovah's Witnesses and became an atheist not because of father issues, but because I respect science and science precludes the fundamentalism I was raised in. Its moreso that I'm a science enthusiast and truth seeker than anything that led to my lack of belief in diety(ies). The Abrahamic religions are arrogant, in a way, since they assume they are the ONLY religions. They act as if the East Asian and Ancient Pagan relgions didn't exist. I don't debate theist anymore since I will not change their mind, and it is very unlikely they will change mine at this point. I've heard and debunked their arguments enough times that seeing the same ones again and again is exhausting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amargith View Post
    Funny. I was raised as an atheist, in a household where religion was mocked but everything was sacrificed at the Altar of Science instead.

    I also went to Catholic school. Both organised religion and the worship of science shared one thing in my youth - disrespect for others and their free will.

    I ultimately chose a form of spirituality that made respect for others and respect for free will in perfect balance, its core.
    "Altar of Science"? What is that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Wailing Specter View Post
    "Altar of Science"? What is that?
    Whatever we worship, we become. It is as though we have an instinct to become, and so we have an instinct to worship. In the marriage ceremony we say, "I thee worship", a judge is described as "your worship", and we worship our God.

    So as we mature, it is important to become aware of what we worship, for that is what we are becoming. And to choose what we become, we must choose what we worship.

    Our urge to become, our urge to worship, is very powerful and often not appreciated, so it is important not to underestimate our urge to worship.

    And we can worship almost anything, no matter how silly, illogical, or inappropriate, like science. Science is somewhat self correcting.

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