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    Quote Originally Posted by Isk Stark View Post
    @ceecee, thanks for explaining your interpretation. You may be missing the point by focusing in on Christ. I don't know that it's a Left/Right issue because this is the sort of thing Nietszche warned about when he proclaimed that God is Dead.

    @magpie and @Cellmold both "got it".

    It's more of a spiritual issue than a left or right political issue which is why I posted in here in the first place.
    All I was suggesting is - when looking for spiritual guidance, the buffet is much bigger than only Christ/Christianity. It wouldn't hurt anyone to acknowledge that, especially Christians. I wasn't bringing nihilism or Nietszche into the picture at all.
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    America has a Christian Revivalist Culture that depends on periodic Revivals, and so periodic spiritual crises.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ceecee View Post
    All I was suggesting is - when looking for spiritual guidance, the buffet is much bigger than only Christ/Christianity. It wouldn't hurt anyone to acknowledge that, especially Christians. I wasn't bringing nihilism or Nietszche into the picture at all.
    By all means, do try the buffet. I advocate it. Some is better than none.
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    What about a focus on increased compassion?

    There is a need beyond joining a religious organization because there can be a lot of unkindness and even cruelty in religious settings as well as other places. Sometimes I feel concerned that all of the rules of various religions distracts people from the true morality of having compassion and respect for their fellow creatures. I don't want to retell anecdotes here, but even as far back as the 1970's there was a lot of cruelty in religious institutions. The more secluded the organization, the more evil the outside world appears, and the lower the assumed bar for its morality. In these instances, religious institutions don't think it takes that much to be morally superior to those in the "secular" realm, but that isn't the case. The bar is much higher than many people think. I wish that my own experience could say that this is a positive correlation between kindness and organized religion, but I can't say there is. Moral growth is dependent on conscience, not externally imposed rules about concrete details of living. If there isn't love, it is just a clanging cymbal.

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    It seems to me that the human tendency towards gossip and judging others has been put on steroids because of social media. The media has deteriorated into a bit of a sorry state. You really can't trust what you read on the Internet. As trite as it sounds, Trump is actually correct in his observation of "fake news". When the news media went from loss leader to profit center, sensationalism took over. The Internet and social media has only exacerbated this. Corporate greed. Profits. People's need to aggrandize themselves. Etc.



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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    It seems to me that the human tendency towards gossip and judging others has been put on steroids because of social media. The media has deteriorated into a bit of a sorry state. You really can't trust what you read on the Internet. As trite as it sounds, Trump is actually correct in his observation of "fake news". When the news media went from loss leader to profit center, sensationalism took over. The Internet and social media has only exacerbated this. Corporate greed. Profits. People's need to aggrandize themselves. Etc.



    Is it a crisis in spirituality? I don't know. Look at how these guys are doing and maybe I have some questions.

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