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    Default Astrology is nonsense?

    Long ago I have created scientific analysis of astrology and it looks that entire thing is pure nonsense.
    The entire astrology is based on how planets are moving through constellations(12 of them). You get the "bonus" if some planet come in some
    constellation.
    Each sign has planets that are more important to that sign.


    Here are the reasons why I think that entire thing is nonsense.



    1. If you land on Mars what will you do with the Earth that is flying around the sky?

    2. What will you do if you are in orbit around the other planet? Since you are so close that this would mean that the planet could be in few constellations that are behind it, does that mean that you get the multiple bonus?


    3. People that are in the different parts of the solar system would see same planet in different constellation. Would that mean that it would be smart to move around the solar system so that you always have the best possible combination?

    4. If you go far enough from the plane(s) in wich planets are moving you will get sitation that none of the planets are falling into a constellations in wich they should be falling. Does that mean that astrology no longer works for you and the place where are you?


    5. If you go out of the solar system you will leave it behind. So one of the possibilitys is that all planets will be in one of the 12 important constellations or in none of them. If they fall in one of 12 of them that should mean that some directions in space will be better for you. If family member or a friend that goes with you is born in wrong part of the year, would mean that for him of her the trip would be damnation. (what will probably make you unhappy)


    6. Stars are moving all the time so with time the constellations we know will fall apart. What will we do then?

    7. Why nobody counts planets around the other stars?

    8. If you live in another star system that is very far away would that mean that person could create new constellations to live and rely on them?


    Is there any opinions about this?

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    Of course it's nonsense...


    edit:
    says the guy with the crystal ball avatar.

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    I'm an Aquarian, we don't believe in that sort of thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antisocial one View Post
    Long ago I have created scientific analysis of astrology and it looks that entire thing is pure nonsense.
    The entire astrology is based on how planets are moving through constellations(12 of them). You get the "bonus" if some planet come in some
    constellation.
    Each sign has planets that are more important to that sign.


    Here are the reasons why I think that entire thing is nonsense.



    1. If you land on Mars what will you do with the Earth that is flying around the sky?

    2. What will you do if you are in orbit around the other planet? Since you are so close that this would mean that the planet could be in few constellations that are behind it, does that mean that you get the multiple bonus?


    3. People that are in the different parts of the solar system would see same planet in different constellation. Would that mean that it would be smart to move around the solar system so that you always have the best possible combination?

    4. If you go far enough from the plane(s) in wich planets are moving you will get sitation that none of the planets are falling into a constellations in wich they should be falling. Does that mean that astrology no longer works for you and the place where are you?


    5. If you go out of the solar system you will leave it behind. So one of the possibilitys is that all planets will be in one of the 12 important constellations or in none of them. If they fall in one of 12 of them that should mean that some directions in space will be better for you. If family member or a friend that goes with you is born in wrong part of the year, would mean that for him of her the trip would be damnation. (what will probably make you unhappy)


    6. Stars are moving all the time so with time the constellations we know will fall apart. What will we do then?

    7. Why nobody counts planets around the other stars?

    8. If you live in another star system that is very far away would that mean that person could create new constellations to live and rely on them?


    Is there any opinions about this?
    What I can't understand is this -

    Every Astronomer will tell you astrology has no truth value. And so most people here don't believe in astrology.

    But when every Psychometrician tells us that MBTI has no truth value, we continue to believe in and practise MBTI.

    This cause me cognitive dissonance. And it is mentally painful.

    So can anyone tell me why MBTI is kosher while astrology is not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    So can anyone tell me why MBTI is kosher while astrology is not?
    I think I laid a bit of a case out in the Cognitive Dissonance thread, if I'm not mistaken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    I think I laid a bit of a case out in the Cognitive Dissonance thread, if I'm not mistaken.
    Good on you mate. I'll have a squiz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Good on you mate. I'll have a squiz.
    Well make sure you wash your hands afterwards.


    The thing that annoys me about astrology is the sections you find in newspapers, magazines, tv guides. Who hires these people? Is it the editor? And who is (s)he to judge astrology, would (s)he give a shit that the astrologist was correct, or would (s)he just be interested in having somebody that can write thirteen paragraphs of rubbish per issue?

    I'm sure when (s)he's hiring astrologers, (s)he doesn't get the applicant to write thirteen sample paragraphs and then get a representative of each zodiacal sign, plus one who's birthday is that day, to judge them for consistency. I'm sure as long as you make things sound meaningful in flowery undefining language you'd get the job.

    But even though just anyone could get away with being a magazine astrologist, so many people look at their paragraph for the week and turn to you and say, "Oooh, look at that. I'm going to get a surprise from a loved one, I knew Brian was planning something special." (Suggesting of course that you know someone who's seeing a Brian)

    And when you tell them this, it just doesn't sink in and they continue going on about it as if it being printed on something glossy or newsprinty somehow inverts logic altogether.
    Why do we always come here?

    I guess we'll never know.

    It's like a kind of torture,
    To have to watch this show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mort Belfry View Post
    Well make sure you wash your hands afterwards.
    To have a squiz, means to have a look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    To have a squiz, means to have a look.
    Well you won't be taking a look at me when I'm taking a squiz, thank you very much.
    Why do we always come here?

    I guess we'll never know.

    It's like a kind of torture,
    To have to watch this show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antisocial one View Post
    Long ago I have created scientific analysis of astrology and it looks that entire thing is pure nonsense.
    The entire astrology is based on how planets are moving through constellations(12 of them). You get the "bonus" if some planet come in some
    constellation.
    Each sign has planets that are more important to that sign.


    Here are the reasons why I think that entire thing is nonsense.



    1. If you land on Mars what will you do with the Earth that is flying around the sky?

    2. What will you do if you are in orbit around the other planet? Since you are so close that this would mean that the planet could be in few constellations that are behind it, does that mean that you get the multiple bonus?


    3. People that are in the different parts of the solar system would see same planet in different constellation. Would that mean that it would be smart to move around the solar system so that you always have the best possible combination?


    Is there any opinions about this?
    I'm not a hardcore believer in astrology or anything, just wanted to suggest some things because it's interesting to think about.

    For point 1 -- If we lived on Mars we'd probably have to construct a new astrological system based on the placement of constellations relative to Mars (would make for an interesting scifi novel, ha). If someone just lands on Mars, his/her astrological makeup would remain the same but the effects of the stars/planets on him/her would be different. I guess that could be applied to points 2 and 3.

    I don't really understand point 4.

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