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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    I would never kick my dog. She never did anything to me. And I detest animal cruelty.

    EDIT: Animal cruelty is another unforgivable sin.
    Missed my point!
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    Unless there is a way to change the past, I don't think it is right to forgive others, really. If life is about balance, then vengeance is a more logical alternative to forgiveness. With forgiveness, you don't gain anything -- you don't get any blood to refuel what was lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucifer View Post
    I hate things that I understand, in fact understanding something is quintessential in hating it. Just because I understand something doesn't somehow make me some lovey saucer eyed SF. Destroying what you hate, or torturing what you hate is one of the most satisfying things, it is the ultimate satisfaction of conviction. Hated something is part of identity, if you do not hate anything, then you cannot truly love something. Without war you cannot know what peace is.
    You own your own values system and thoughts. As Martha would say, "And that's a GOOD thing!"

    You are also very generous in your self-disclosing.

    Damn! I think I'm in love.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    With forgiveness, you don't gain anything. . .
    I take it you don't value peace of mind? Self-care stuff?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anja View Post
    I take it you don't value peace of mind? Self-care stuff?
    Can you honestly sit there and say that you would forgive someone if they killed your entire family?

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    If a man should slap you on one cheek, smash him on the other!

    Thats my thoughts towards this whole thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hexis View Post
    If a man should slap you on one cheek, smash him on the other!

    Thats my thoughts towards this whole thing.
    I YOU!

    Why is it that ENFPs make more sense than everyone else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    Can you honestly sit there and say that you would forgive someone if they killed your entire family?
    Experience has taught me that I'd have to or live the rest of my life with unbelievable hurt and rage. And I don't care to haul that kinda load around with me.

    No one has control over, or responsibility for, my emotions but me, after all. Inconvenient fact, but true. Otherwise I am at the mercy of every mean-spirited person in the world. And I don't care to give people free rent in my head and heart.

    More, Uber. You've overlooked my question about valuing peace of mind.
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    The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.

    -Mahatma Gandhi
    "Honest differences are often a healthy sign of progress. "

    "You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty."

    "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anja View Post
    More, Uber. You've overlooked my question about valuing peace of mind.
    Vengeance = closure = peace of mind.

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