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    For me personally, since wildcat hit the nail on the head when it comes to forgiveness.

    There isn't a whole lot I won't forgive.. but there is plenty I will never forgive entirely, and there is still more I will never forget.

    Rape is unforgivable. Raped someone recently? You're not on my friend's list.
    You murder my family, consider yourself off my Top 8.
    Things of magnitude like this are black and white for me..

    ..But you do provoke my thought process on smaller things.. Like.. when someone lies to me something dramatic.. do I ever really forgive them? Does the whole "Forgive but don't forget." philosophy count? I mean, I probably won't trust that person as far as I could throw them.. but it's not enough to make me burn the bridge yet.

    So I guess unforgiving acts, for me, would be something severe enough for me to never want to talk to you again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by disregard View Post
    If forgiveness is in the forgiver, then the only unforgivable sin is murder, because the victim cannot forgive from the grave.
    True.

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    The only sin I would have difficulty forgiving would be taking the gift of self I have been given and trashing it.
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    But, I understand that whatever's intention for the thread was to find out which sins are unforgivable in the sense that they are too "bad" to forgive, not simply technically unforgivable.

    Given that, I would not say that rape is always unforgivable. Forgiveness is a helpful coping mechanism for victims of sexual assault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by disregard View Post
    Forgiveness is a helpful coping mechanism for victims of sexual assault.
    So a rape victim forgiveing the raper helps them move on? Supposedly?
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    I think first you need to figure out what constitutes forgiveness and then there's the matter of forgiveness by the victim vs. forgiveness by the rest of society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hexis View Post
    So a rape victim forgiveing the raper helps them move on? Supposedly?
    Sometimes.

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    I personally cant see how that helps someone, I know it does and that there are people out there who feel they cant move on from something till they forgive the person but I honestly dont see how this helps someone. And personaly if you forgive someone of such a thing then I now have less respect for you as tolerable human being.
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    Edit: Post removed.
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    I think that idea of forgiveness being more for the one doing the forgiving than for the one who committed it is to free one from carrying resentment, rage, all the baggage that goes with not forgiving. That stuff can poison the one who carries it. In that sense then the person "has" you for life, not just one single act.
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