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    Default Atheists more likely to believe in superstitions

    Well well well.....so much for the argument that religion is only for savage idiots!

    Look Who's Irrational Now
    By MOLLIE ZIEGLER HEMINGWAYArticle'


    "You can't be a rational person six days of the week and put on a suit and make rational decisions and go to work and, on one day of the week, go to a building and think you're drinking the blood of a 2,000-year-old space god," comedian and atheist Bill Maher said earlier this year on "Late Night With Conan O'Brien."

    On the "Saturday Night Live" season debut last week, homeschooling families were portrayed as fundamentalists with bad haircuts who fear biology. Actor Matt Damon recently disparaged Sarah Palin by referring to a transparently fake email that claimed she believed that dinosaurs were Satan's lizards. And according to prominent atheists like Richard Dawkins, traditional religious belief is "dangerously irrational." From Hollywood to the academy, nonbelievers are convinced that a decline in traditional religious belief would lead to a smarter, more scientifically literate and even more civilized populace.

    The reality is that the New Atheist campaign, by discouraging religion, won't create a new group of intelligent, skeptical, enlightened beings. Far from it: It might actually encourage new levels of mass superstition. And that's not a conclusion to take on faith -- it's what the empirical data tell us.

    "What Americans Really Believe," a comprehensive new study released by Baylor University yesterday, shows that traditional Christian religion greatly decreases belief in everything from the efficacy of palm readers to the usefulness of astrology. It also shows that the irreligious and the members of more liberal Protestant denominations, far from being resistant to superstition, tend to be much more likely to believe in the paranormal and in pseudoscience than evangelical Christians.
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    ....Surprisingly, while increased church attendance and membership in a conservative denomination has a powerful negative effect on paranormal beliefs, higher education doesn't. Two years ago two professors published another study in Skeptical Inquirer showing that, while less than one-quarter of college freshmen surveyed expressed a general belief in such superstitions as ghosts, psychic healing, haunted houses, demonic possession, clairvoyance and witches, the figure jumped to 31% of college seniors and 34% of graduate students.....
    Read the entire article here:
    Look Who's Irrational Now - WSJ.com

    Of course numerous other sociological studies have shown this connection between irreligion and superstitions.

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    Pff. You're such an atheist-ist.

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    If you count their belief in Christianity to be a superstition, they are much more superstitious.

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    God out = junk in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    If you count their belief in Christianity to be a superstition, they are much more superstitious.
    Of course to make such an argument exposes your utter ignorance on the matter of the nature of religions altogether.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    Of course to make such an argument exposes your utter ignorance on the matter of the nature of religions altogether.
    How so? We are all aware of the supernatural nature of most religions.

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    How does belief in the supernatural equal superstition?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    How does belief in the supernatural equal superstition?
    They can and do overlap, and can mean the same thing by definition. Depends on the def.

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    Belief in the supernatural isn't based on reason or knowledge, you have to have faith. Superstition is a belief not based on reason or knowledge.

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    In certain circumstances, yes they can seem very much alike. But that's still different than saying that superstition and religion are alike in their very natures.

    That's just like saying that religion is simply about attributing everything to the mere will of God. That's not religion per se, but the perspective of Occasionalism - which is rejected in many religious traditions(like mine for example). Just like not all religions insist upon Fideism, nor embrace a literalist approach to holy texts, nor a miminalist approach to faith.

    To do so means you're operating on a rather overly simplistic definition of religion - which exposes your unawareness of the vast complexity involved in the topic.

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