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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    I'm going to paraphrase a quote I read a while ago from some Pope:

    "With faith, one need not think"
    Do you remember what Pope stated that? Because such a statement would contradict basic Catholic theology. In fact the basic complaint of both Protestants and Orthodox Christians is that Catholicism is too rationalistic.


    There a really informative book on the subject, called: The Fall Of Reason. (I think that's what it's called)
    I think I know what book you're talking about. Funny cause there's a book called The Victory of Reason: How Christianity Led to Freedom, Capitalism, and Western Success by Rodney Starks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    Do you remember what Pope stated that? Because such a statement would contradict basic Catholic theology. In fact the basic complaint of both Protestants and Orthodox Christians is that Catholicism is too rationalistic.
    No, I just know that it's a fairly old quote, not from a recent pope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    Atheists more likely to believe in superstitions
    Sure they are, pookie, sure they are.

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    This wouldn't strike me as terribly odd, since Christianity tends to chase out any belief that it feels does not match with it's own. So, once Christianity steps in, all of that other flakey crap has to step out.

    This doesn't tell us anything about scientific literacy, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bella View Post
    Could you put it like this: Supernatural pertains to that which is not of the physical world while superstition too pertains to that which is not of the physical world but with fear added to it.
    How is religion not based on fear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dissonance View Post
    How is religion not based on fear?
    You're using 'religion' where I used 'supernatural'. I don't think they're the same, I would say religion is the unfortunate mess humans made of the supernatural.
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    No, real atheists/rationalists are not superstitious at all.

    What I think that is happening in scenario you have mentioned is that people are changing one phantasy for another.
    To tell you the truth I think that those two have same or similar source.

    Really rational people are not superstitious because they don't need it and entire thing does not have too much sense.
    (religion or supersticion)

    I think of myself as an atheist, rationalist and future scientist and I can tell you that I am against superstition far more then against religion.
    And I am far from supportive when it comes to religion.

    For example I will start a thread "Why astrology suck" soon.


    I think that your theory is not correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bella View Post
    You're using 'religion' where I used 'supernatural'. I don't think they're the same, I would say religion is the unfortunate mess humans made of the supernatural.
    Okay, separate question -- how is believing in God not based on fear?

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    Am I gonna get in trouble with moderator again? I'm not answering before he answers.
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    We are in the philosophy forum. You can answer whatever you want.

    The only reason the mod didn't like your posts is that you didn't list any reasoning.

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