When I respond properly to that thread that I started, I was going to add this link somewhere in it, because I think its a very good summary of a lot of important points surrounding the matter, especially in elaborating a broader edifice related to the "on truth" problem he was discussing with Sam.
I still have a problem with all the conflation of the Marxist critique with its modern cultural interpretations, which many seem to weirdly attribute to Chomsky (there is a British Socialist, who Paul Ruben interviewed, who shared very analogous views on Chomsky's contribution to the current regressive mood).
this is totally tangential to what I want to go onto say, but I think one should distinguish the cultural influence of so-called Marxism, and even, what some might attribute to Chomsky's influence on intellectual-culture, and sharply contrast that with the substance and content of actual claims from these sources, because just to conflate cultural effects with intellectual substance, is not a real talking point... but in any-case, I am counter-intuitively pleased with Jordan's message, because his unwillingness to be more politically nuanced on this point, would just be a distraction from his platform, which might do some far-sweeping good, even in the realm of bolstering the Alex-Jones listener-ship toward a more encompassed sense of what our modern crisis fully entails, in all its depth, which might of been horribly thwarted if Jordan was extolling some nuanced point about only despising the political ideology inspired by premature Marxist projects, while vainly trying to preserve the Marxist outlook in some form, to an audience that even have some trouble finding Jordan palatable because of his language of reverence for religious elements;— so although he's overlooking the vastly important contribution that Marxist thinking prompts us to confront in what elements are in need of displacement, the best working model being that of Anarcho-Syndacism— which by its very nature, is most similar to replicating and maintaining the ethos that Jordan advocates; but such points are convoluted to draw out, especially in the present circumstance, where Marxism is a word claimed by the Authoritarian-sentiment, I will be very interested when Jordan Peterson ever ventures to specifically address what he believes is entailed by "left-Marxism", although it is true, that even a Left-Marxist predilection for something like Anarcho-Syndacism could be lumped in with Jordan Peterson's 'hypothetical Utopian' tarring, its not quite the same thing, as those who patiently wait to offer that model it is as an alternative to when something new is needed to replace what [according to Marx] will one day, be in the grips of its demise (by the very nature of its ability to achieve economic increases- ie. its success is the engine of its own failure and self cannibalization). I'm not going to elaborate further on the myriad issues embroiled in this particular point, but at some point, politicians do decide how to structure laws, which structure economic fundamentals, and structures do need allow for free-actions, which might have cumulative knock-on affects, but obviously, some structures can be setup to be better and more transparent that others, and systems, and their regulation of what information about those systems becomes publicized, can have massive influences on giving people the capabilities, to interface more effectively with how a system manages its resources and access to resources (by giving people signals that are easy to interpret, or perhaps even showing people whose actions are responsible for predictable effects, but before such actions have become sufficiently gamed by a prior effectiveness of another actor) .
I also find it interesting, that in the video that I am about to add, is, what I consider, a perfect exemplar from some of the philosophical framing that Chomsky famously laid out in the Foucault debate.
Jordan Peterson | Post-Modernism vs. Modernism at the Toronto Action Forum - YouTube
