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    Quote Originally Posted by persianness View Post
    That's called deceit.

    ... some people are actually sincere with their faith.

    Come on, Eck.
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    Hmm some hostility towards religion is so open face it almost reminds me of being evangelical, which is one of the biggest segments I dislike due to its in your face ideology. So we have evangelical-style atheists now? Guess another group for me to dislike for trying to force views on someone.

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    Militant atheists are simply trying to counteract militant theists

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    The problem is that religion and atheism are mutually inhibitory.

    Just as the cognitive faculties and the imaginative faculties are mutually inhibitory.

    So the struggle between them is part of their very nature.

    If one does not metaphorically kill the other, it can't survive.

    But one can only remain dominant for a while before it goes stale and so needs to be refreshed by the other.

    So happiness is the l'alternance between cognition and imagination and between religiion and atheism.

    If you take it seriously, it becomes a tragedy.

    But if you hang on tightly and let go lightly, it becomes a comedy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    The problem is that religion and atheism are mutually inhibitory.

    Just as the cognitive faculties and the imaginative faculties are mutually inhibitory.

    So the struggle between them is part of their very nature.

    If one does not metaphorically kill the other, it can't survive.

    But one can only remain dominant for a while before it goes stale and so needs to be refreshed by the other.

    So happiness is the l'alternance between cognition and imagination and between religiion and atheism.

    If you take it too seriously, it becomes a tragedy.

    But if you hang on tightly and let go lightly, it becomes a comedy.
    And you might just be sent to hell in the process

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sytpg View Post
    And you might just be sent to hell in the process

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sytpg View Post
    And you might just be sent to hell in the process
    How true.

    And on the third day the Saviour will come and redeem me.

    And we will dance in the morning, and we will dance in the night.

    We will dance the rhythm of l'alternance - my Saviour, the Devil and me.

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    The Potential Everything from Nothing that physics keeps proving and mystics in Qabbalism, Gnosticism, Hinduism and Buddhism reasoned long ago (and is even in the bible if you know where to look) must be beyond Existence knocks the personified Stalking Zeus fundamentalist 'God' into a cocked hat and out of it again. That's the 'God' that Gnostics called Sama-el, the Blind God, 'Mad, Bad and Dangerous to Know'' of minds taking this world of their experiencce as all there is and deifying their own ignorance as Lord of This World (another name for their 'Satan' and OT 'Jehovah' fantasy). Modern science tells us that what we see is the illusion conditioned by our senses of what is far beyond gross sensory perception - not the mad Jehovah of fundamentalist fantasy who sends a Tsunami to drown thousands who've never heard of him in India and Thailand because Americans refuse to persecute homosexual acts that have gone on without worrying 'Him' since time immemorial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    I don't believe in God either*, but what about hyperspace/quantum mechanics? Could God not exist and take action there? *skims rest of extremely long post*

    *I am an atheist, but I allow for the possibility of the supernatural. It's only logical to do so.


    I don't want to repeat people on here... the original post essentially sums up my stance of the possibility of a god.. and Mr. Flak's response was really the only kind of possibility I personally take into consideration with regard to god, and our perceptions of reality, etc. Always open to possibility. *Regardless if he was at any point being sarcastic.. every once in awhile these things go over my head...

    I'd like to add, while studying history, early civilizations, etc.. I've never quite understood the rationale [on the level of the individual] behind the jump from the impossibility/rejection of polytheism, to the resulting acceptance of monotheism... I take into consideration that earlier peoples were overall more primitive.. but I still can't understand how that rejection/acceptance "made sense" to them...

    ..eh.. I probably need to do more reading.

    Furthermore.. I wish to point out... as I am atheistic.. the word itself, when broken down, fundamentally and simply means, the absence of belief in one or more dieties. It's not [to me] a practice. It's a simple position on a topic, a preference, same as whether or not I drink Regular or Decaf coffee. There are no rituals. No meetings. No pamphlets. No trying to convert anyone. Personally, I live and let live. Drink my [Regular] coffee. Do I hate Decaf? No. Do I believe in one or multiple gods? No. Do I think religion leads to a lot of social problems across the globe, and for that reason detest it? No. I believe ignorant, irrational extremists do. That's got more to do with poor decision-making on the individual's part based on, perhaps, a skewed perception of their chosen religious background. It's a course of study that people base their personal codes of ethics and moral value systems on. Unfortunately I think these documents are taken out of context often. But I'm not out to save people from evils of the Holy Texts. I don't see any evil there. Live and let live. It's not that hard. Though I realize it's no simple task... I'm a bit too idealistic to be able to offer any real solution to implement, I suppose. Some people need Decaf. I don't. Fine by me. One may think the other is missing out.. but damn folks.. it's all the same beverage to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    How true.

    And on the third day the Saviour will come and redeem me.

    And we will dance in the morning, and we will dance in the night.

    We will dance the rhythm of l'alternance - my Saviour, the Devil and me.
    My point being that for people that are truly religious, happiness isn't about the "l'alternance" you speak of. Supposedly, anyway.

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