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    There are two ways of thinking.

    We have been thinking the first way for 200,000 years and we have been thinking the second way for only 100 years, and that only in privileged parts of the world, particularly the West.

    The first way of thinking is intuitive and the second is counter-intuitive.

    The first has given us everything from maternal love and religion to territorial empires.

    The second has given us plenty; it has given us political freedom; and it has given us science.

    The first way of thinking is based on the spoken word and the second is based on literacy.

    The first is intuitive and the second is counter-intuitive.

    MBTI is firmly based in the first way of thinking.

    MBTI is intuitive, MBTI is natural.

    You are free from compulsion - you are not compelled by State Law to go to a special institution with specially trained staff, for 10 years, to learn MBTI - as you are with literacy.

    In fact you can pick it up naturally then share it with your friends.

    MBTI comes out of our infancy just like mother love.

    But a big change is upon us - we are moving out of our second way of thinking and back to the past - we are moving from literacy back to the spoken word. And we are doing this via the electronic media.

    The electronic media reinforces MBTI - just like here - it sets it like reinforced concrete.

    The first way of thinking has won.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    The first way of thinking has won.
    Of course I knew this the moment I cast eyes on television. I knew at that moment there was no need to be literate to watch and understand television - I knew there was no need to learn to read and write anymore.

    My aversion to television was instinctual - my hatred of television was visceral.

    So I have never had one in my house - I have never owned a television - I fantasise about smashing televisions with a small hammer.

    And as I walk in the cool night air, I see the evil eye blinking bluely in each lounge room.

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    You make a good point here. Advanced discipline, is what I think when I consider the 2nd way of thinking.
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    So you support the second way?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    There are two ways of thinking.

    We have been thinking the first way for 200,000 years and we have been thinking the second way for only 100 years, and that only in privileged parts of the world, particularly the West.

    The first way of thinking is intuitive and the second is counter-intuitive.

    The first has given us everything from maternal love and religion to territorial empires.

    The second has given us plenty; it has given us political freedom; and it has given us science.

    The first way of thinking is based on the spoken word and the second is based on literacy.

    The first is intuitive and the second is counter-intuitive.

    MBTI is firmly based in the first way of thinking.

    MBTI is intuitive, MBTI is natural.

    You are free from compulsion - you are not compelled by State Law to go to a special institution with specially trained staff, for 10 years, to learn MBTI - as you are with literacy.

    In fact you can pick it up naturally then share it with your friends.

    MBTI comes out of our infancy just like mother love.

    But a big change is upon us - we are moving out of our second way of thinking and back to the past - we are moving from literacy back to the spoken word. And we are doing this via the electronic media.

    The electronic media reinforces MBTI - just like here - it sets it like reinforced concrete.

    The first way of thinking has won.
    MBTI may be intuitive, yet Jungian typology is a very carefully organized system. It requires much careful thought to understand it properly. Failure to understand it (MBTI is a result of this, a distortion of Jungian typology) shows how much we rely on intuitive thinking, or mere appeasement of intellectual impulse than on careful analysis.
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    if you think about it "Intuitive" is just one of those words.

    yeah. Really, this thread is a false distinction. Niether "intuitive" or counter-intuitive are good excuses or accusations for a quality of something.

    If something is intuitive to someone, it matches thier perception.

    Psychological types was intuitive to Jung, as he came up with the whole thing with his heroic introverted intuition.

    And Bluewing's idiotic crap is intuitive to him.

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    I used to feel the same way you do about TV, but since then my views on mass literacy being the most fantastical and indespensible thing ever have changed. And I also don't see why science can only come through counter-intuitive thinking... plus an awful lot of very counter-intuitive realizations of great wisdom have come through religious thinking (see Hinduism for example).

    Could you clarify for us a bit more, how you came to the statements you made in the OP?
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    counter intuitive thinking isn't 100 years old... F=ma?
    and who the hell is going to be making TVs if you say that literacy is dead?

    Now if you are talking about literacy for the masses we have public education and anyways you still need a certain level of literacy in order to properly function in society.

    I just don't see literacy as dying anytime soon
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    Is it just me or does Victor need a blog?

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    That's up to Victor, but his posts make my brain feel good, even though I don't know what he's getting at half the time.

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