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    Free will can exist, but we must actually make the effort to use it.

    Biology can only determine so much. Childhood as well. Typology helps us understand the general idea of a person, not the specific determined path.

    There are no predestined paths, but there are likely paths.

    Creativity and spirituality can help use break free of the deterministic pull.

    It is so easy to follow impulse and do the deterministic thing. But we think and feel, choosing different paths based upon choice.
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    "Man can do what he wills but he cannot will what he wills." - Schopenhauer
    Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SearchingforPeace View Post
    Free will can exist, but we must actually make the effort to use it.

    Biology can only determine so much. Childhood as well. Typology helps us understand the general idea of a person, not the specific determined path.

    There are no predestined paths, but there are likely paths.

    Creativity and spirituality can help use break free of the deterministic pull.

    It is so easy to follow impulse and do the deterministic thing. But we think and feel, choosing different paths based upon choice.
    What you're describing is soft-determinism. Absolute determinism says that our very minds are by-products of our brains, our bodies, the matter we consist of; therefore the way we are is determined by something out of our control, because everything that lead up to and facilitates the nature of our existence is out of our control. The choices we make are because our brain dictates so, the nature of our existence is as it is because of the matter and energy that we comprise of.
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    Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion man.

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    People that say free-will doesn't exist are simply anxiety riddled losers that don't want to admit that their failure is entirely their fault.

    ^I already have enough useless nihilists in my life, I don't need a bunch of zombies hounding me about not having control over myself and my life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TopCatLSD View Post
    People that say free-will doesn't exist are simply anxiety riddled losers that don't want to admit that their failure is entirely their fault.

    ^I already have enough useless nihilists in my life, I don't need a bunch of zombies hounding me about not having control over myself and my life.
    Yeesh. I'm all for being blunt, but this is just downright nasty. Further this is a subjective topic. It's pretty hard and unfair to condemn one side or the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard View Post
    Yeesh. I'm all for being blunt, but this is just downright nasty. Further this is a subjective topic. It's pretty hard and unfair to condemn one side or the other.
    Nah, its easy and completely fair. There's nothing subjective about being a loser, you either are or you aren't. It's as simple as that.
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    To be aware of possibilities is to provide the ground for both freedom and truth.

    Meaning that awareness of possibilities makes freedom possible.
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    Free Will. See the world burn

    Determinism. See the world perish.

    "Advance, and never halt, for advancing is perfection. Advance and do not fear the thorns in the path, for they draw only corrupt blood."
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    Quote Originally Posted by evilrubberduckie View Post
    Free Will. See the world burn

    Determinism. See the world perish.

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    Always look on the bright side of life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frosty6226 View Post
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    Always look on the bright side of life.
    I am looking at the bright side of life. I get to have both crunchy AND soft tacos shells if I buy El Paso.
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