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    Default What do you think the purpose of philosophy or spirituality is?

    Are they mainly explanatory, such as cosmos, abstract theorising, or are they mainly about how we should live? Is it a sharp dichotomy between the two? Why?

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    I think everything is extrinsic except for the pleasure/pain axis, the only intrinsic reason anything can be good or bad. Without pleasure or pain, nothing could possibly matter.

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    Questions and ideas to ruminate upon. Nothing more. If any answer is found by considering the questions they raise then the exercise is validated.
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    To teach how to live without certainty, and yet without being paralyzed by hesitation, is perhaps the chief thing that philosophy, in our age can still do for those who study it.

    - Bertrand Russell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    What do you think the purpose of philosophy or spirituality is?
    Gymnastics for the inner self.
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    To transform the individual, inevitably leading to a transformation of society.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dopa View Post
    I think everything is extrinsic except for the pleasure/pain axis, the only intrinsic reason anything can be good or bad. Without pleasure or pain, nothing could possibly matter.
    Pleasure and pain are an illusion. A biological mechanism that we derive meaning from. Or do you mean to say that experience itself is key, and that experience can be divided into good and bad? Is there anything though which is extrinsic to experience? Your experience is outside of my experience, so in that sense yes.

    So, we have the problem of whether anything exists outside of experience, and this is a very real problem. Supposing it is, we would then need to demonstrate that some kind of experience is somehow better than another, while only referencing experience. Problem problem problem, which cannot be solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    To transform the individual, inevitably leading to a transformation of society.
    We are made of excrement. We should change ourselves into gold. Only when that happens will social transformation be possible. Otherwise, any attempts at revolution or reform will just echo the old society.

    Philosophy is a means for turning ourselves into gold. Philosophers should also not be held up as ideals, but examined within the context of their times. The parts that speak truth can be synthesized into a greater whole; the parts that do not can be discarded.
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    Philosophy is thought to be applied, and to be applied is to allow oneself to entertain and perhaps adopt the philosophical viewpoint. It is highly important. It is not simply enjoyment of thought, it is altering worldviews, altering attitudes by such perspectives and expanding one's view of understanding others' possible points of views. Not many understand the significance of philosophy upon the mental attitudes towards all things in the world, but a few do, and those are those who manage to alleviate from a more common physical perspective of things over others. The impact of optimism as a philosophy on an individual highly differs how the individual deals with the world, and emotional reactions to such things to a pessimist. A solipsist is able to lower fears of dealing with the social world because they would assume people may not exist as an external object beyond their minds. A realist takes the situation at hand and does not overextend thought over details or big picture aspects of a situation. An atheist takes that which they can perceive and trusts expansion over time and science without holding trust in that which is beyond that, as they perceive creativity in the human minds hold non-solid grounds to explain that which is not yet explained. This is also a philosophical undertaking. As an agnostic holds possibilities as possible, and does not tend to hold solid stance of belief in matters of the unknown or non-perceived. Theists, holds to past traditions, beliefs, and understand through things set and held, and many formulate multiple understandings of what was written from the past but hold belief in the unknown, 'unseen' or unclear, as something far more solid to the foundations of existence.


    Philosophy is important because each and every individual has a unique philosophy they tend to lean to at one particular instance in time. To understand others' is to be able to start to notice things you wouldn't notice and therefore change one's way of dealing with the world.
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    What is the purpose of philosophy or spirituality?

    As long as humans live amongst a group of people, community, the environment and exist within the universe, why is philosophy needed? Philosophy helps us to understand the world around us, and helps us to question and re-examine the cultural constructs we live by. Through the process of questioning and re-examining, we're able to incorporate ethics in our daily conducts as a social more, a spoken or unspoken written rule based on values of fairness, equality, and reason.

    Philosophy helps us to question science, the mind, all aspects of living.

    Spirituality, what are its purposes? Some people chose to live spiritual lives, whether or not they believe in a God or multiple Gods, or no God because spirituality to them is essential, because spirituality gives meaning to everyday existence. You're able to transcend beyond philosophy and science, and actually apply it in every moment of your life. These are all of the subliminal questions wrapped up into one, and spirituality is the art of living the way we choose to based on how we perceive our own realities and the way we conduct ourselves.

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    There is no purpose. It's there. Just like the universe itself.

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