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    Default The Heinzman debate

    So, in my Developmental Psychology class, we were studying morality and when it develops. It develops in three stages total; but to test the final form that is usually gained in the late teens/young adult hood, a psychologist created "The Heinzman Debate".
    In it, a woman is diagnosed with a terminal illness and will die soon. A pharmacist creates a life saving drug, yet it's outrageously expensive and hardly anyone can buy it. The husband of the woman, Heinz, pleads with the pharmacist multiple times to give him the drug, and even resorts to charity to buy it. Of course, this drug is so expensive, he ends up stealing it from the pharmacist to save his wife. His wife lives, and they live happily ever after.

    Was Heinz right for stealing the drug? Was the Pharmacist right for keeping the drug to himself? What do you think? I want to hear your opinions.

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    Yes, because the pharma company was acting immorally by pricing the drug so high that it cant be afforded by most to get max profits instead of max amount of lives saved. Drug store can get the money back from insurance company, so even if it was a private store, they dont lose any money.
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    Whether it is right isn't nearly as important as whether it's excusable.

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    The reason why the drug is outrageously expensive is because it costs $400 million to bring a drug to market. There is a hepatitis drug on the market right now that's very expensive ($1100/pill) but cures the disease. I can't blame the husband for stealing the drug, but the pharmacist owes these people nothing at all. It's his property and it's been stolen. If I was the pharmacist, I would've shot the thief. The ideal approach would be to address the economic and political forces that drives up the cost of these drugs. It's not the pharmacist's fault that the drug is so expensive and he's not being greedy. He has to get something back for his effort too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellenbach View Post
    If I was the pharmacist, I would've shot the thief.
    I hope you don't have kids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus
    I hope you don't have kids.
    Do you oppose shooting criminals in general or just in this hypothetical?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellenbach View Post
    Do you oppose shooting criminals in general or just in this hypothetical?
    In the majority of cases, including this hypothetical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus
    In the majority of cases, including this hypothetical.
    Let's say the thief is stealing your cat. Would you approve of shooting him then?
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    A pharmacist creates a life-saving drug. A pharmacist? Pharmacists usually dispense prescription drugs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellenbach View Post
    Let's say the thief is stealing your cat. Would you approve of shooting him then?
    No.

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