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    Why would he leave his book behind, then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    Athiesm has a hubris to it that has always ran a chill down my spine.
    ...borne witness by the willingness to 'bet a million lives.' I believe he would, if he could.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    Why would he leave his book behind, then?
    The book thing, there's lots of books written by people about spirituality, its part of the lexicon, Jesus himself didnt instruct any books be written or seek to leave one as a lasting legacy, the only thing he left was the Church in the shape of the 12 disciples but it was mainly to tell people they could stop living in fear of God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    The book thing, there's lots of books written by people about spirituality, its part of the lexicon, Jesus himself didnt instruct any books be written or seek to leave one as a lasting legacy, the only thing he left was the Church in the shape of the 12 disciples but it was mainly to tell people they could stop living in fear of God.
    So the holy ghost did not instruct those men to write their respective parts of the bible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by noigmn View Post
    I meant atheism in the sense of not having a belief in God, as opposed to strongly believing in no God. Agnostic would probably have been the correct term, but I'm an agnostic who leans toward the not believing side if I had to guess the unknowable.

    I find absolute rejection of God's existence to be drawing conclusions that can't be drawn. It takes as much faith in the unknown as religion.
    It is a fine line separating accepting the unknown as such and claiming that the unknown is proof or relative likelihood of the existence of an antropocentered daddy who loves you yet kills people in the sky.
    What were all the rational people thinking?!

    The issue is the same drives that make people attached to feel-good-memes also lead other simplified and extremely polarized statements to succeed where the more obvious middle ground or complex alternatives are mostly ignored.
    Which, creating problems to compute about strong (and generally internalised=emotional attachement) beliefs/positions, polarize information exchange on the edges of the phase space, just feeds the wheel of unprovable and too extreme to be ever tested ideas on how the world is. Wether in sociology, theology or in playgrounds..
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    Expression of the post modern paradox : "For the love of god, religions are so full of shit"

    Theory is always superseded by Fact...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    So the holy ghost did not instruct those men to write their respective parts of the bible?
    Think you're just trolling now. Bye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Think you're just trolling now. Bye.
    I think you are running away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueGray View Post
    If God is enacting change and we simply don't notice it than I challenge people to pay closer attention and find these changes. God is thus provable and people can not use the argument that it is not.
    !!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    I bet a million lives that you merely labeled your experience 'god'; for it did not divulge its godness clearly to you (thus it cannot be 'aptly described'), so that through a lack of other explanations you reached for the easiest one: god, religion, tradition.
    Maybe it's clear to him that it was....if it was, then he's right. But why would he be wrong?

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    Hint: Some of you don't have the first idea what logic and data acquisition\definition is about.
    Expression of the post modern paradox : "For the love of god, religions are so full of shit"

    Theory is always superseded by Fact...
    ... In theory.

    “I’d hate to die twice. It’s so boring.”
    Richard Feynman's last recorded words

    "Great is the human who has not lost his childlike heart."
    Mencius (Meng-Tse), 4th century BCE

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