User Tag List

First 12

Results 11 to 18 of 18

  1. #11
    The Green Jolly Robin H.
    Join Date
    Oct 2014
    MBTI
    ENTJ
    Posts
    1,683

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by tkae. View Post
    Have you not seen the sitcom bit of someone trying to think of a fake name and saying, "Dr. (first object they see around them)"?

    But the study isn't going so far as to say our thoughts are controlled by our environment. That's a bit of a leap. It's just saying that there's an observable effect caused on our unconscious processes by the environment, which only shows that we aren't processing nearly as much unconsciously as they thought. It has nothing to do with subliminal control of our thinking.
    The study indicates that by changing certain external factors we can control the flow of thoughts in a large number of people.
    "i shut the door and in the morning
    it was open
    -the end"




    Olemn slammed his hammer and from the sparks on the metal of his anvil came the spheres of the heavens.

    Sayrah blew life into the spheres and they moved. From her wheel she weaved the names of people in to mystery.

  2. #12
    Wake, See, Sing, Dance Cellmold's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    5,806

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by GarrotTheThief View Post
    The study indicates that by changing certain external factors we can control the flow of thoughts in a large number of people.
    So action/reflection = reflection/action?

    Somehow I had an inkling.
    'One of (Lucas) Cranach's masterpieces, discussed by (Joseph) Koerner, is in it's self-referentiality the perfect expression of left-hemisphere emptiness and a precursor of post-modernism. There is no longer anything to point to beyond, nothing Other, so it points pointlessly to itself.' - Iain McGilChrist

    Suppose a tree fell down, Pooh, when we were underneath it?"
    "Suppose it didn't," said Pooh, after careful thought.
    Piglet was comforted by this.
    - A.A. Milne.

  3. #13
    Mojibake sprinkles's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    MBTI
    INFJ
    Posts
    2,968

    Default

    If you have metacognition you can thought control your own self.

  4. #14

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by GarrotTheThief View Post
    The study indicates that by changing certain external factors we can control the flow of thoughts in a large number of people.
    That's not difficult at all, you should read about the use of trigger men and trigger phrases in the northern ireland troubles, its continuing still but its less easy to manage than it once was.
    Likes GarrotTheThief liked this post

  5. #15
    ^He pronks, too! Magic Poriferan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    MBTI
    Yin
    Enneagram
    One sx/sp
    Posts
    13,908

    Default

    First of all, the test itself doesn't seem terribly different from the old "don't think of an elephant" bit that George Lakoff came up with. It's maybe one degree removed. Although the impact of the length of the word on which action the subject takes is kind of interesting, if not surprising.

    The incredibly broad conclusion in the title, however, is extremely obvious and can be demonstrated in countless ways. It should not be news to anyone.
    Go to sleep, iguana.


    _________________________________
    INTP. Type 1>6>5. sx/sp.
    Live and let live will just amount to might makes right
    Likes Hard liked this post

  6. #16
    The Green Jolly Robin H.
    Join Date
    Oct 2014
    MBTI
    ENTJ
    Posts
    1,683

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    That's not difficult at all, you should read about the use of trigger men and trigger phrases in the northern ireland troubles, its continuing still but its less easy to manage than it once was.
    interesting. is this a trigger as in stimulus that causes some sort of mental anguish or effect?
    "i shut the door and in the morning
    it was open
    -the end"




    Olemn slammed his hammer and from the sparks on the metal of his anvil came the spheres of the heavens.

    Sayrah blew life into the spheres and they moved. From her wheel she weaved the names of people in to mystery.

  7. #17
    The Green Jolly Robin H.
    Join Date
    Oct 2014
    MBTI
    ENTJ
    Posts
    1,683

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    First of all, the test itself doesn't seem terrible different from the old "don't think of an elephant" bit that George Lakoff came up with. It's maybe one degree removed. Although the impact of the length of the word on which action the subject takes is kind of interesting, if not surprising.

    The incredibly broad conclusion in the title, however, is extremely obvious and can be demonstrated in countless ways. It should not be news to anyone.
    it's not broad in certain situations. for example exposing children who are fatherless and suffering extreme poverty to violence has an increased effect and correlation in them comiting violent acts where as the same violence shown to affluent children does not have the fact.

    By this logic it is possible to literally know for a fact how many new inmates you will produce using game theory and and economic model of thought. In other words the media contributes DIRECTLY to increased crime rates.

    But why that is not considered a crime? Double standards.

    For example: someone can know for a fact that if they expose child group B to video game X it will produce for certain a criminal within a certain amount of years given the child group is also exposed to crime, lack of parent, poverty, and other media channels that portray the child of the demographic as a certain type.

    This is why we have the biggest prison industry in the world and in history and why the prison industry is worth billions. For those who don't know inmates here are used as free labor. The public is unaware of this but you can easily discover it by calling your local institution. North Carolina for instance would have been a failed state if it weren't for prisons. That state exists because prisons do, no other reason.

    So yes...thoughts and actions can be controlled using media for a certain type of impressionable person. This is science and fact and consciously used to support the economy.
    "i shut the door and in the morning
    it was open
    -the end"




    Olemn slammed his hammer and from the sparks on the metal of his anvil came the spheres of the heavens.

    Sayrah blew life into the spheres and they moved. From her wheel she weaved the names of people in to mystery.

  8. #18

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    First of all, the test itself doesn't seem terribly different from the old "don't think of an elephant" bit that George Lakoff came up with. It's maybe one degree removed. Although the impact of the length of the word on which action the subject takes is kind of interesting, if not surprising.

    The incredibly broad conclusion in the title, however, is extremely obvious and can be demonstrated in countless ways. It should not be news to anyone.
    Well, well, well.

    Magic mo foing Poriferan.


Similar Threads

  1. I believe none of our thoughts are unique
    By prplchknz in forum Philosophy and Spirituality
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 02-23-2014, 11:50 AM
  2. What types are offended by the MBTI?
    By Lily flower in forum Myers-Briggs and Jungian Cognitive Functions
    Replies: 45
    Last Post: 07-18-2011, 08:00 AM
  3. Why we can't get our deficit under control
    By DiscoBiscuit in forum Politics, History, and Current Events
    Replies: 46
    Last Post: 03-02-2011, 07:44 PM
  4. Replies: 47
    Last Post: 09-05-2010, 06:46 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO