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  • Charity

    3 8.82%
  • Corporate

    10 29.41%
  • Religious

    7 20.59%
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    In a nutshell, the problem with privatizing education is that idiots like GW are able to go to Havard while some poor genius has to work at Mcdonalds because he or she lacks the resources. It's horribly stupid.

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    Hmm, Im not religious and do not believe beliefs should be enforced on others but I would actually vote that way. I attended a religious private school when I was a young tacker and as long as it is not extreme or goes against my beliefs I would have no problem sending my kids to one as well. My beliefs were never challenged, I was never forced to participate in anything I was uncomfortable with and the fact that there was a chapel on the premises was the only thing that indicated it was religious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by murkrow View Post
    Why not?

    Without the burden of taxation the population would have much more free capitol to invest in charities they feel ideological connections to.
    Hm... in my experience it doesn't work like that. Without taxation the "capitol" of the poor still drains away and now they also have to pay for basic things they previously got from the state (which they probably won't be able to).

    Whereas in countries with high taxation people still seem to have free capital to invest in charities (or themselves) because they get free health care, legal help, paid pregnancy leave, unemployment money, education and so on.

    (The US is not considered a country with high taxation, and even if it were, it's an exception, since the tax money is squandered or redistributed to the rich, not given back to those who need it the most.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Provoker View Post
    In a nutshell, the problem with privatizing education is that idiots like GW are able to go to Havard while some poor genius has to work at Mcdonalds because he or she lacks the resources. It's horribly stupid.
    Poor geniuses are desired by corporations and all academic institutions.

    Their schooling will be subsidized.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murkow
    And I'm pretty sure that even private universities have to answer to the ministry of education (or whatever it's called in the US).
    In the US, school districts have enormous control over curriculum, and only have to meet some requirements from the state's general requirements and those of nochildleftbehind. The specificity of the state's requirements are all probably limited by the state's constitution (I don't know about any state, it's a guess)... it's hugely left to local governments.

    Under the options, even though I'm not religious at all, I would prefer to send my children to a religious school.

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    Religious or if I couldn't find a religious school I was comfortable with, Charity.

    Edit: And homeschooling does not mean unsocialized. I absolutely believe parents should have the right to educate their children at home and would support their receiving funds for materials and compensation for the educating parent, as long as they had some level of accountability.
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    when i read corporate I read private institutions or businesses whose business it is to run schools... if by corporations you mean McDonald's or Murdoch's company could run schools, then I request a change of vote to "secular charity".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel De Mazarin View Post
    when i read corporate I read private institutions or businesses whose business it is to run schools... if by corporations you mean McDonald's or Murdoch's company could run schools, then I request a change of vote to "secular charity".
    It's assumed that you'd be sending them to a corporation's school who you respect.
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    Education should be privatised, but that would not normally mean what murkrow has said. If every school in the US was run as a charity then the US would have a privatised education system. If every school in the US was a religious school, funded by tuition fees and/or charitable donation from a church, then the US would have a privatised education system. If every school was run as a business, funded by tuition fees and nonreligious charity and intended to make a proft, then the US would have a privatised education system.

    In reality, privatised education systems contain a mixture of business, charity and religious schooling (edit: and homeschooling).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carebear View Post
    Hm... in my experience it doesn't work like that. Without taxation the "capitol" of the poor still drains away and now they also have to pay for basic things they previously got from the state (which they probably won't be able to).

    Whereas in countries with high taxation people still seem to have free capital to invest in charities (or themselves) because they get free health care, legal help, paid pregnancy leave, unemployment money, education and so on.

    (The US is not considered a country with high taxation, and even if it were, it's an exception, since the tax money is squandered or redistributed to the rich, not given back to those who need it the most.)
    I'd love to see you take that up with Pure Mercury.
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